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TCP-Group Digest Sun, 13 Oct 96 Volume 96 : Issue 219
Today's Topics:
2300 MHz band reallocated (3 msgs)
KISS for Windows (3 msgs)
SLIP for TNC-2
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Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 07:28:19 -0500 (CDT)
From: ssampson@othello.UCSD.EDU (Steve Sampson)
Subject: 2300 MHz band reallocated
> There goes our 2305-2310 MHz band, off
> to be sold to the highest bidder without so much as a notice of
> proposed rule making.
I'd rather let capitalism develop a cheap solution on this band,
then wait for Hams to do anything. I think the FCC should sell
to the highest bidder, any Ham band not populated by at least
50% of licensed members. The higher the Ham license class, the
more HF priveledges you get. This seems to be the crux of the
problem. Extra class Hams have no need for microwaves, and
those frequencies are given away to mere Technician class :-)
The ARRL spends too much money suing the United States, and
not enough promoting microwaves. Their charter seems to be
legal rather than technical, thus they will lose more and more.
(You can't fight city hall).
I think populating the 2 Gig band will produce more jobs than
Hams would. Most Ham dealers are on the brink of bankruptcy,
to produce any new jobs. It's so bad right now, I don't think
Ham radio will survive even 5 more years. Or if it does, we
will have to mail-order equipment from Korea or Japan.
Steve
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Date: Sat, 12 Oct 96 10:25:47 UTC
From: wb9mjn@wb9mjn.ampr.org
Subject: 2300 MHz band reallocated
Hi Bruce,
Well, that s just great. How are Hams , or anybody interested in learning
RF / Radio systems supposed to make a data network between houses, with
any kinda efficient use of resource? 2300 to 2310, and 2390 to 2400 made per-
fect Duplex pair for Spread Spectrum full duplex radio system, up to a
megabaud information rate. Now we are back to LOUSY simplex again.
Do the politicians realise, that the Amateur allocations are the Ed-
ucation allocations, as well. Do u think they read the laws they have made,
in particular paragraph 97.1 of the Communications Act of 1934?
All this retoric about Education during the recent Presidential Debates,
must have been just that, rhetoric. They DO NOT REALLLLY GIVE A Rats REAR
END ABOUT GETTING KIDS TRAINED UP TO WORLD STANDARDS AT ALL. It just sounds
good when they say they are.
Let alone the fact that the nation is falling head long into the Centralised
Radio System model, with NOTHING left for any new ideas. 10 years from now,
there wont be any spectrum left, or need for RF engineers to develope new
system designs.
This has to be about the absolute worse spectrum to take away from Ed-
ucational uses, as this time. With the chip sets that are out there, from
other successful comercial ventures, new technigues could be pioneered on
a budget. But, NO, every last drop , every last tree standing, has to be
profitized.
We HAMs have to start to get really voiciferous. This is the last straw.
It makes no sense for the country to screw the future. We have to tell
EVERYBODY that that is just what CONGRESS and the FCC are getting away with.
73, Don.
Mailbox : WB9MJN @ N9HSI.IL.USA.NA
AMPRNet : wb9mjn@wb9mjn.ampr.org[44.72.98.19]
Internet: wb9mjn%wb9mjn.ampr.org@uugate.aim.utah.edu
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Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 22:25:51 -0700
From: "Ron Curry" <recurry@insighttec.com>
Subject: 2300 MHz band reallocated
Well I'm saddened to see this happen. I was actually building some 2.3 ghz
equipment and this is quite a blow. However, from a pragmatic point of
view, if I look at the likelyhood of all the ham appliance operators and HF
dx types ever actually doing anything widespread on 2.3 I think the
amatuer radio probably isn't the best use of the spectrum.
Let's get real. There are MAYBE 25 hams in the whole SF Bay area
experimenting with 2.3-2.4 ghz (I've only actually heard 3-4 so I'm being
generous). None of them are kids. Heck we can't even get most hams to get
to 9600 baud packet let alone play with 2.3 ghz. A large number of them
can't even make 1200 work effectively. I thought I might be able to get a
few to 56kb but they backed out at the last minute because it wasn't
"plug'n'play" and was too expensive for them so I just put my own links up
to experiment with.
I think we will have a VERY hard time putting together a credible and
compelling argument that 2.3-2.4ghz ought to stay an amatuer band. What we
SHOULD focuse on is the VERY serious problem of the government SELLING
spectrum. Clearly this is very short sighted and a typical politicians way
of raising revenue to get re-elected. At worst spectrum should be leased,
at best it should be "rented".
Regards,
Ron
Ron Curry
KE6WED
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