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TCP-Group Digest Tue, 3 Sep 96 Volume 96 : Issue 180
Today's Topics:
advanced networking: Slovenia
Parallel Port IP? (3 msgs)
RFC 1986 (ETFTP and Radio Links)
TCP-Group Digest V96 #175 (4 msgs)
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Date: Mon, 02 Sep 96 17:44:44 EDT
From: Iztok Saje <s52d@s55tcp.ampr.org>
Subject: advanced networking: Slovenia
Hi Terry !
All projects are HAM projects... So, please Go ahead !
If you find a way to make some money, it would be fair to pass some to
S53MV.....
Best 73, gl de Iztok
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Date: Mon, 02 Sep 1996 13:45:37 -0500 (CDT)
From: David Kelly <dkelly@hiwaay.net>
Subject: Parallel Port IP?
A local user asked me to querry if any of the modern NOS's were capable
of using a printer port as an interface between two machines. Thought
I'd heard of some support for this in the past. Know Linux and FreeBSD
can do it thru a LapLink cable. But how about xNOS? Especially the
DJGPP version of KA9Q?
Meanwhile I'm going to download the new KA9Q code and look for myself.
73,
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Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 15:21:44 -0700 (MST)
From: Bob Nielsen <nielsen@primenet.com>
Subject: Parallel Port IP?
On Mon, 2 Sep 1996, David Kelly wrote:
> A local user asked me to querry if any of the modern NOS's were capable
> of using a printer port as an interface between two machines. Thought
> I'd heard of some support for this in the past. Know Linux and FreeBSD
> can do it thru a LapLink cable. But how about xNOS? Especially the
> DJGPP version of KA9Q?
You can do this with the PLIP packet driver (from the Crynwr collection).
Bob
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Date: Tue, 03 Sep 96 00:58:00 -0000
From: mikebw@bilow.bilow.uu.ids.net (Mike Bilow)
Subject: Parallel Port IP?
David Kelly wrote in a message to Mike Bilow:
DK> A local user asked me to querry if any of the modern NOS's were
DK> capable of using a printer port as an interface between two
DK> machines. Thought I'd heard of some support for this in the
DK> past. Know Linux and FreeBSD can do it thru a LapLink cable.
DK> But how about xNOS? Especially the DJGPP version of KA9Q?
Any NOS which supports "attach packet..." should be able to use the Crynwr
PLIP
Packet Driver, I would think.
-- Mike, N1BEE
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Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 11:06:54 -0500 (CDT)
From: System Administrator <root@disco.oklahoma.net>
Subject: RFC 1986 (ETFTP and Radio Links)
FYI
I've just got around to reading this RFC (available on nic.ddn.mil:/rfc).
It's a study conducted by MITRE on the use of a modified Trivial File
Transfer protocol. As is customary at MITRE, they've really put a lot of
information in one document.
---
Steve
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http://www.oklahoma.net/~ssampson
"Throw Clinton out in 96! ...and her husband"
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Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:57:59 -0700
From: "Ron Curry" <recurry@insighttec.com>
Subject: TCP-Group Digest V96 #175
Either Fry's electronics or NCA (I can't remember which without looking at
the ad) here in the SF Bay area has them. Gee, if they are still going for
$280 in other places I should pick up a few and resell! 8^). $280 is way
too much. I bought a 5mb two years ago for $150. They do ATA emulation so
they look like a hard drive. A real basic Linux should fit in 5 mb and
certainly in 10mb. The PCMCIA adapter board can be had for less than $100us
so the whole thing is probably $150us to $200.
Ron
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> From: John Paul Morrison <jmorriso@bogomips.com>
> To: TCP-Group@ucsd.edu
> Cc: tcp-group-digest@ucsd.edu
> Subject: Re: TCP-Group Digest V96 #175
> Date: Thursday, August 29, 1996 3:27 PM
>
> >
> > Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 00:46:10 -0700
> > From: "Ron Curry" <recurry@insighttec.com>
> > Subject: advanced networking
> >
> > Seems like there is little reason to build a ROM version of Linux. A
> > 386/486/Pentium mother board (one of the P54C with power management)
with a
> > PCMCIA flash card will work just fine. The flash cards are available
for
> > less than $200 for 15 mb and about $50 for 5mb. That is more than
enough to
> > build a basic system for a router. No moving parts and it looks to the
bios
> > and software just like an ATA device.
>
> OK, where do you get PCMCIA flash cards for $50? I looked on
> the web at one of the online shops and 5MB was around $280 and there
wasnt
> much variation.
>
>
> I think a ROM version of Linux (or NOS) would be too complicated
> and expensive. If there's an existing product in the market that
> emulates a floppy or hard drive, then it should be cheaper and
> wont require more programming.
>
> Whatever happened to 2.88 MB floppies? That's still probably too
> small for a router with bells and whistles.
>
> >
> > Ron
> >
>
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Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 11:12:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: jmorriso@bogomips.com (John Paul Morrison)
Subject: TCP-Group Digest V96 #175
> John Paul Morrison wrote:
>
> > Whatever happened to 2.88 MB floppies? That's still probably too
> > small for a router with bells and whistles.
>
> I think you're confusing router with server. What bells and whistles
> would
> you want on a router that would consume that much space ?
For one thing: an http server with config files/scripts to
setup the router. Cisco IOS 11.x has a built in web server -
they added it because of the demand for a better user interface
on their low end routers. Other companies like Ascend are adding
pretty interfaces as well (not necessarily web based). I hear lots
of people say how difficult Unix is to setup (and for an end user,
it's even more complicated to setup the networking).
To be continued in digest: tcp_96_180B
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