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TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Digest for Wednesday, June 11, 2003.
1. Re: Stand Alone Digi
2. Re: Stand Alone Digi
3. Re: replicating KISS ports under windows
4. Re: ISS
5. Ouch!
6. Re: Ouch!
7. Re: Ouch!
8. Re: replicating KISS ports under windows
9. Re: Ouch!
10. Re: replicating KISS ports under windows
11. Re: replicating KISS ports under windows
12. Re: replicating KISS ports under windows
13. Re: replicating KISS ports under windows
14. Re: Old Computers (was: replicating KISS ports under windows)
15. VOICE ALERT for Europe
16. Re: Old Computers
17. Re: replicating KISS ports under windows
18. Re: Old Computers (was: replicating KISS ports under windows)
19. Re: Old Computers (was: replicating KISS ports under windows)
20. Re: hamradio Was Old Computers
21. Fw: Re: hamradio Was Old Computers
22. ADMIN: Re: hamradio Was Old Computers
23. Hamboree 2003 - Sioux City, Iowa
24. Re: Client Personality Enhancement Suggestion [was: Win APRSDirect Station
Only]
25. Re: Client Personality Chart [was: Client PersonalityEnhancement
Suggestion]
26. Old computers is not off topic
27. Re: replicating KISS ports under windows
28. Unattended Shutdown using Windows XP
29. REF: NOT "Off Topic "
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Subject: Re: Stand Alone Digi
From: "Hurt, Jay" <hurt@adcom911.org>
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 06:21:36 -0600
X-Message-Number: 1
>Exactly the application the UI-Digi firmware replacement is intended for!
>
>UI-Digi is replacement code for the 27256 eprom in the TNC2 or 1270-series
>TNCs, developed by IW3FQG , that converts the unit to a dedicated APRS-only
>digipeater.
Will this work on a MFJ-1274? or only the 1270?
Jay
N0XVB
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Subject: Re: Stand Alone Digi
From: Doug Bade <dbade@clecom.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 09:14:31 -0400
X-Message-Number: 2
The 1274 is compatible as it is a 1270 with a display... same
rules apply if B or C version modes are needed.....
Doug KB8GVQ
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Subject: Re: replicating KISS ports under windows
From: Ralph Milnes <ralph.milnes@verizon.net>
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 10:11:19 -0400
X-Message-Number: 3
Alex asked
>AGWPE can connect several applications to the same IP port through IP
>sockets. However, my application lives on a non-Windows platform without
>an IP stack. I would like to connect that to my Winders box and have
>that box provide me with the frames it hears from its TNC in KISS mode.
>
>Are you, or anyone else, aware of any program that will replicate data
>that comes from one KISS TNC and offers that to another serial port as
>KISS frames and vice versa?
I don't, although there has been some discussion of MixW providing a
virtual serial port link. I'm not familiar with MixW or this feature ...
maybe some else is. I also seem to remember that it might not work on a
Win95 machine. But maybe it's a lead ..
Ralph KC2RLM
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Subject: Re: ISS
From: Bill Bird <billbird@cal.berkeley.edu>
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 10:28:05 -0500
X-Message-Number: 4
The ISS is still not active for APRS. It has been about five months.
The reason I have seen for keeping the packet station off the air is to
conserve power. I hope it gets powered up again soon.
73.
Bill Bird
KG0YJ
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Subject: Ouch!
From: Alex <kr1st@amsat.org>
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 12:43:34 -0400
X-Message-Number: 5
Ouch!
http://energycommerce.house.gov/108/Hearings/06112003hearing951/hearing.htm
The mic is still open. I wanted to listen to the Haney testimony.
However I was late, and was treated on private conversations obviously
not meant to be public.
73,
--Alex KR1ST
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Subject: Re: Ouch!
From: Alex <kr1st@amsat.org>
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:23:23 -0400
X-Message-Number: 6
People ask me what I hear. I obviously can't say anything on content. This
is The House Committee on Energy and Commerce, of which W.J. "Billy" Tauzin
is the Chairman, we're talking about. I just checked, it's still open. I
guess there will be another or a continuation of a hearing soon.
73,
--Alex KR1ST
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Subject: Re: Ouch!
From: David VanHorn <dvanhorn@cedar.net>
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 12:30:36 -0500
X-Message-Number: 7
At 01:23 PM 6/11/2003 -0400, Alex wrote:
>People ask me what I hear. I obviously can't say anything on content.
I don't know why, it's a public "broadcast".
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Subject: Re: replicating KISS ports under windows
From: "Mark Fellhauer" <sparkfel@qwest.net>
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 12:34:45 -0500
X-Message-Number: 8
At 09:11 AM 6/11/2003, Ralph Milnes wrote:
>I don't, although there has been some discussion of MixW providing a
>virtual serial port link. I'm not familiar with MixW or this feature ...
>maybe some else is. I also seem to remember that it might not work on a
>Win95 machine. But maybe it's a lead ..
If anyone is still using Win95 on this SIG... CUT IT OUT! There are
probably no acceptable excuses for using Win95 in 2003, except maybe that
you are the curator of a museum of outdated OS's and equipment.
Mark
KC7BXS
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Subject: Re: Ouch!
From: Alex <kr1st@amsat.org>
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:48:33 -0400
X-Message-Number: 9
David VanHorn wrote:
>I don't know why, it's a public "broadcast".
That's why I posted it so folks can listen for themselfs. Anyway, I
don't feel like going down that slippery slope of what's legal or not in
this case. The fact that it is Tauzin's shop is reason enough for me.
Who knows what else he can come up with.
73,
--Alex KR1ST (ceasing and desisting)
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Subject: Re: replicating KISS ports under windows
From: Doug Bade <doug@clecom.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:51:28 -0400
X-Message-Number: 10
I disagree with that summation..
There are many good reasons to have win95 on DOS aprs machines..
especially older slower computers....which would choke on 98... I think the
statement is unjustified...I run a print server pc which smokes along quiet
as a church mouse under 95 and does not care to nag me about updates every
other week.. For many tasks 95 is still far superior in performance on
older machines... On a p4 2 gig machine, it is probably a bad idea, but on
a p100 or less it does just great at many ham tasks...
Doug
KB8GVQ
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Subject: Re: replicating KISS ports under windows
From: Alex <kr1st@amsat.org>
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:57:09 -0400
X-Message-Number: 11
Mark Fellhauer wrote:
>If anyone is still using Win95 on this SIG... CUT IT OUT!
I will, as soon as Win96 comes out.
73,
--Alex KR1ST (Win96, Loose95, Break Even 1.0)
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Subject: Re: replicating KISS ports under windows
From: Miller Scott Contr 30SCS/FTI <Scott.Miller@vandenberg.af.mil>
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 18:26:51 -0000
X-Message-Number: 12
I agree... if it works, don't mess with it. Look at how many hams are still
using DOS. Heck, look at how many are still using Commodore 64s.
My biggest problem with running old stuff is that it gets to be not worth
the space and power. Speaking of which, if anyone wants to buy a DEC
AlphaStation 200 4/166, a Silicon Graphics Indigo2, a DEC VAX-6000 (3-phase
power required), or some MicroVAXen, let me know. I have a dream that
someday I might be able to walk from one side of my garage to the other.
But the local hamfest is coming up this weekend, so it'll probably just get
worse. =]
One caveat about old OSes - be careful if you're connected to the Internet.
Once a vendor drops support for an OS, getting security updates can be
impossible, and an out-of-date machine on a fast DSL or cable connection is
an inviting target for script kiddies and worms. Even a low-end machine can
be made to spew out enough traffic to clog a multi-megabit connection and
conduct a denial of service attack.
Scott
N1VG
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Subject: Re: Old Computers (was: replicating KISS ports under windows)
From: "Mark Fellhauer" <sparkfel@qwest.net>
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 14:06:26 -0500
X-Message-Number: 14
At 01:26 PM 6/11/2003, Miller Scott Contr 30SCS/FTI wrote:
>One caveat about old OSes - be careful if you're connected to the Internet.
>Once a vendor drops support for an OS, getting security updates can be
>impossible, and an out-of-date machine on a fast DSL or cable connection is
>an inviting target for script kiddies and worms.
And that's my point, a recent computer is perfectly capable of supporting
legacy apps. Just not with Win95 (or MS DOS). It is not Y2k compliant,
is not secure, is not supported with updates, doesn't not have automatic
registry saving, etc.
I recently interviewed for an IT position a local regional bank. I noticed
all their internal computers are still running Win95, and I thought, "gee,
I'm glad I don't bank here..." :)
I went into one of my bank's branches yesterday and they were getting all
new computers (XP) complete with LCD flat screen monitors.
Hardware that originally came with Win95 has gotten to point where it's
totally outdated and unreliable. What's the purpose of Ham Radio? To
provide reliable communications and assistance in emergency
situations. If an ATX power supply goes on my computer, I can drive 1
mile from my house and find 3 places that sell them. Or I could
cannibalize another computer in the house. If an AT power supply fails,
I'm gonna have to ask around or mail order one. What happens in a
blizzard? What happens when the tornadoes rumble through at 3 AM? Am I
gonna be able to replace a defective or damaged piece of computer
componentry in a timely fashion with a minimum of fuss?
Mark
KC7BXS
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