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TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Digest for Sunday, May 25, 2003.
1. Manual for IC-T8A
2. Findu Problems
3. Re: Findu Problems
4. Re: Findu Problems
5. How cool is this? / eTrex
6. Re: weekend lawyer question
7. Re: weekend lawyer question
8. Re: weekend lawyer question
9. Re: mic-e progress report
10. RE: Garmin Rhino?
11. Re: weekend lawyer question
12. RE: Garmin Rhino?
13. 60 buck 120GB Hard Drive
14. RE: Garmin Rhino?
15. Re: 60 buck 120GB Hard Drive
16. RE: Garmin Rhino?
17. Re: 60 buck 120GB Hard Drive
18. My wandering car
19. Re: weekend lawyer question
20. Re: 60 buck 120GB Hard Drive
21. RE: Garmin Rhino?
22. Re: weekend lawyer question
23. Re: 60 buck 120GB Hard Drive
24. RE: Garmin Rhino?
25. Re: 60 buck 120GB Hard Drive
26. Remote WX TNC settings needed
27. Re: 60 buck 120GB Hard Drive
28. Re: 60 buck 120GB Hard Drive
29. RE: How cool is this? / eTrex
30. Re: 60 buck 120GB Hard Drive
31. Re: 60 buck 120GB Hard Drive
32. Re: 60 buck 120GB Hard Drive
33. Re: How cool is this? / eTrex
34. RE: My wandering car
35. Re: 60 buck 120GB Hard Drive
36. Re: "Gap Filler" digipeaters
37. Re: My wandering car
38. Re: My wandering car
39. RE: Garmin Rhino?
40. I-GATEing?
41. Re: 'Gap Filler' digipeaters
42. RE: Remote WX TNC settings needed
43. Was about the 60 buck 120GB Hard Drive
44. Re: I-GATEing?
45. Re: I-GATEing?
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Subject: Manual for IC-T8A
From: docfester@mindspring.com
Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 00:05:24 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 1
After using several other HT's, I've gone back to my Icom IC-T8A, not the
81, but, I seem to have misplaced my manual for it. I went to
icomamerica.com but they only have a manual listing for the 81A. I did a
google search and found one, but I'll start to learn Korean in about 20
years. If anyone has the pdf version of the manual for the IC-T8A please
contact me off sig. Thanks to all.
Kd4sfd
Les
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Subject: Findu Problems
From: "Ken Patterson" <kenp@etex.net>
Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 04:52:55 -0000
X-Message-Number: 2
Anyone having problems accessing Findu1?
Like: http://www1.findu.com/cgi-bin/near.cgi?call=N5EQT-1
Findu 2 seems to be working ok.
http://www2.findu.com/cgi-bin/near.cgi?call=N5EQT-1
de Ken,
N5EQT
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Subject: Re: Findu Problems
From: Robbie <mwrobertson@attbi.com>
Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 00:10:25 -0500
X-Message-Number: 3
They both worked fine here Ken, about 3 seconds for the pages...
Robbie, wa9inf
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Subject: Re: Findu Problems
From: "Ken Patterson" <kenp@etex.net>
Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 11:57:56 -0000
X-Message-Number: 4
Thanks all. Musta been an isolated problem that was resolved overnight. de
Ken, N5EQT
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Subject: How cool is this? / eTrex
From: Robert W Burton <kd4ydc@juno.com>
Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 08:11:46 -0400
X-Message-Number: 5
On the last day of school my 8th graders are overing the corner giggling.
I tell them "come on over and have a seat" when I see a card being
passed back and fourth. "Oh...." I think to myself...."their signing a
card.....well that is nice" . They're all very excited when they come
over to me and hand the card to me. One little girl has something behind
her back. Someone says, "Show him, show him" and out comes a eTrex
Legend. My mouth drops. All my 8th grade kids chipped in and gave me a
gps for a going away present. Blows me away ;-)
Anyway, I have been looking at the different map options. How often do
they update these from the Mapsource CD's? Also I have heard something
about putting APRS symbols on the screen of the GPS. Thought that would
be cool when using it with the D7.
Thanks for any help,
Robert
KD4YDC
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Subject: Re: weekend lawyer question
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 09:25:19 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 6
Concerning capturing position data from selected Rhino's participating in
a HAM radio event and retransmitting the position information as 3rd party
on APRS:
On Sat, 6 Apr 2002, Glen Briggs (KB0RPJ) wrote:
>(e) No station shall retransmit programs or signals emanating from any
>type of radio station other than an amateur station, except propagation
>and weather forecast information intended for use by the general public
>and originated from United States Government stations and
>communications...
To me position information gleaned from a NON HAM source is not a
"program" or "signal". It is information. Taking the raw Rhino waveform
and "relaying" it onto HAM frequencies would be against the
rule. But taking the information a position object received from one
service and originating it on APRS is fine. Heck we do that with
Hurricane data all the time!
de WB4APR@amsat.org, Bob
PCsat WEB page http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/pcsat.html
ISS-APRS FAQ: http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/iss-faq.html
CUBESAT Designs http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/cubesat.html
APRS LIVE pages http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/aprs.html
APRS SATELLITES http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/astars.html
MIM/Mic-E/Mic-Lite http://ssdl.stanford.edu/mims/
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Subject: Re: weekend lawyer question
From: Wes Johnston <wes@johnston.net>
Date: 25 May 2003 10:41:37 -0400
X-Message-Number: 7
Bob, hurricane data is from a government source, and weather and
propagation information are permitted (along with music if it's from the
space shuttle). Rino data does not originate from the government, so by
and large, it's not permitted. HOWEVER I would say if a ham owns the
rino, and you wanna gate HAM RINOS thru a permission list at the
gateway, that's fine.
The real trick would be for a HAM to send a message to the with his
APRSSERVE passcode. That way, any ham joining in could validate himself
with the gateway automaticaly. Does the garmin allow you do send a
status along with the posit? the status could contain your validation
number so it didn't require you to specifically send the number. Or how
many characters are permitted in a garmin name? Let's say it's 12. I
really have no idea, but let's assume 12. the callsign KD4RDB-15 is 9
characters long. If we had a checksum was calculated on everything BUT
ssid, and was 3 characters long, I could set my rino's name to
KD4RDB-15abc , where abc was the checksum. The gateway would see this
and know I was a valid ham. Really and truely, it could be done in two
bytes using standard 0-9&a-F characters... and the hyphen between my
callsign and the SSID isn't needed. Heck, the ssid could be in hex,
saving one byte (ie -15 = f).
Just rambling...
Wes
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Subject: Re: weekend lawyer question
From: Alex <kr1st@amsat.org>
Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 00:48:03 -0400
X-Message-Number: 8
So what's the difference between a weekend lawyer and an armchair lawyer?
Btw, you can always ask these types of questions to the ARRL (Imlay is
the name?).
73,
--Alex KR1ST
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Subject: Re: mic-e progress report
From: Alex <kr1st@amsat.org>
Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 00:18:50 -0400
X-Message-Number: 9
Thanks for the update, Wes. It's very refreshing to see actual development
requiring a soldering iron!
As to the hiss/RF feedback problem, decoupling caps may help. 10-22pF
should not interfere with the audio, but will short UHF RF. Sometimes
ground loops are created with audio cables because both ends of the shields
are connected to ground. Folks often resort to audio isolators, while
disconnecting the ground shield (not signal ground of course) on one side
may cure the problem a lot cheaper. If you use the Radioshack snap on beads
you may find that these are ineffective, but if your cable is thin enough
so that two or more turns will fit in the bead it may become very
effective. I just had this experience when I added a Behringer mixer to the
shack.
If the problem is very serious, I'd disconnect everything and then
reconnect wire by wire to see where the actual problem comes from and then
put one of those tiny beads on that wire. Apparently you have quite a bit
of stray RF at that location.....would a coax balun help?
As you know, I know nothing about repeaters and I probably didn't tell you
anything new, so please ignore at you convenience. :)
73,
--Alex KR1ST (armchair ham)
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Subject: RE: Garmin Rhino?
From: Alex <kr1st@amsat.org>
Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 00:27:19 -0400
X-Message-Number: 10
Spider wrote:
>Yes! A serial output port! The 120 is a fantastic little product.
I'm surprised. I thought that the last NPRM from the FCC on FRS clearly
said that it would be allowed to attach any external devices to these
things. That's when I lost total interest in them. I figured they
wouldn't develop anything like the 120.
73,
--Alex KR1ST (3 day weekend armchair ham)
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