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Subject: RE: Garmin Rhino?
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 17:02:43 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 15
The following suggests how we can consistently integrate RINO data
into APRS once someone figures out how to get the data out of a
RINO:
APRS-RINO SPEC 25 May 2003
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WB4APR
The RINO is the Garmin integrated FRS/GPS combination that is the
ultimate in APRS functionality for keeping track of people during
local short range events. By placing a RINO/APRS receiver at the
center of activty, the RINO's can be integrated into the APRS
tactical picture. This documents the specifics of that interface.
CHANNEL: Normally the channel/tone for Amateur Radio applications
that use FRS is channel 7 tone 3. This channel, if available,
should be used for general operations which are focused on VOICE as
the primary means of information transfer. If, however, personnel
tracking is the predominant application, then a good channel for that is
channel 3 tone 9.
APRS FORMAT: All RINO position reports are integrated into APRS
using the APRS OBJECT format. This format contains a time stamp
and the Amateur Callsign of the station that is responsible for the RINO
data and injecting it into APRS. The OBJECT format follows:
HAMCALL>APRS,DIGIPATH:;RINOname*DDHHMMzDDMM.hhN/DDDMM.hhW$CSE/SPD...
Where HAMCALL is the Amateur Radio APRS station responsible
DIGIPATH is the path on APRS
RINOname is the RINO name field (truncated to 9 bytes)
DDHHMMz is the UTC Day/time stamp
DDMM.HHN/DDDMM.hhW is the usual APRS position format
$ is the APRS icon comparable to the RINO icon
CSE/SPD are the course and speed fields
... is up to 34 characters of additinal free field comments
ACCOUNTABILITY: To avoid any problems, the APRS/RINO interface is
intended for specific Amateur Radio applications and the APRS station
has some controls over the interface so that only valid RINO
participants are injected into APRS. Several methods of manual and
automatic identification means are suggested:
1) ALL: Everyone in range is participating in the event.
2) LIST: Using this method, only RINO names that match a list
of participants will be transferred.
3) NAMES: Participation is determined from the RINO user name.
HAM-CALL - If the RINO name is 4, 5 or 6 characters in
length and matchs the standard for HAM radio callsigns
then the station may be automatically transferred.
SSID - If the RINO name contains an SSID, it is accepted
PREFIX - If the RINO name has a prefix such as "AP-" then
it is intended for injection into APRS.
ICONS: The RINO has a number of ICONS that can be selected. The
translation between the RINO icons and APRS icons are as follows:
RINO ICON APRS ICON
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tbd tbd
Does anyone know the ICONS an can fill in this table?
de WB4APR@amsat.org, Bob
PCsat WEB page http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/pcsat.html
ISS-APRS FAQ: http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/iss-faq.html
CUBESAT Designs http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/cubesat.html
APRS LIVE pages http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/aprs.html
APRS SATELLITES http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/astars.html
MIM/Mic-E/Mic-Lite http://ssdl.stanford.edu/mims/
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Subject: Jerry Schmitt KK5YY -- SK & Memorial Service
From: "Brian P. Mileshosky" <n5zgt@swcp.com>
Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 16:33:49 -0600
X-Message-Number: 16
Fellow APRSers:
I don't know if I passed this unfortunate news to this list already or not.
Jerry's wife, Barbara KD5CGU, contacted me via email and informed me that he
has become a Silent Key. Jerry KK5YY (ex KC5EGG) passed away on Friday May
23 due to a sudden heart attack. As many of you know, Jerry was a very
influential and valuable asset to all of Ham Radio. He was a known icon in
the Amateur satellite and APRS communities, a net control operator for the
New Mexico Swapnet, an efficient communicator during the Cerro Grande fires,
the designer and main promoter of the Arrow Antenna used for satellite work,
and a developer to improve the operation of many popular radios, such as the
Icom IC-706MkIIG, Yaesu FT-100, Kenwood D7A --- with those companies'
support after noting what he was capable of making them do. Jerry organized
the International Space Station QSO that took place in 2001 at the Museum on
Natural History for a bunch of school children, too. Above all, Jerry was a
great friend, and elmer (especially to me since I was 12) and a fun person
to chat with on the radio and in person.
Jerry was on the verge of retirement from Los Alamos National Laboratories
and planning to move with Barbara to Alaska, a place he has always loved.
Ham Radio has lost a mighty fine person, and he has left some mighty big
shoes to be filled.
Barbara, Jerry KK5YY's wife, asked me to distribute information about
Jerry's memorial gathering for those of you who may have known him. The
gathering will take place this Sunday, June 1st, 2:00PM at the Pajarito Ski
Lodge. The area is through Los Alamos on the way to Jemez Springs. There
will be a road to the right with a small brown sign with a skier on it and
you follow that road to the end where you'll see the runs and the lodge.
Complete driving directions are located at
http://www.skipajarito.com/directions.html. Barbara is really hoping that a
lot of people are able to come because it would make Jerry feel happy.
Jerry knew many of you guys and gals, so please forgive Barbara if she
doesn't recognize you!
This will not be a service. Just a few little desserts, drinks and pictures
of Jerry, etc. She hopes a few people will feel comfortable sharing a story
or a few remarks with the group that is there. Just being there will mean a
lot to them, but if you are unable to make it, please at least spend a
minute or two around that time thinking of Jerry.
While the above is all the information anyone should need, if there are any
questions, don't hesitate to email me with them. I hope to see everyone
there to remember and pay tribute to a great Ham. Local repeaters that can
be used on the way from at least the Albuquerque area are the 145.33 (-, 100
Hz PL) on Sandia Crest and the 145.19 (-, no PL) atop Pajarito Mountain.
Let's all produce some RF and chat on the way.
73,
Brian, N5ZGT
Amateur Radio Station N5ZGT - N5ZGT PBBS, 145.01 MHz
ARRL Life Member, NorCal #1700, QRP-L #580, AK/QRP #125
Boy Scouts of America - Eagle Scout - ASM, Troop 409
Vigil Honor Member, O.A. Lodge 66 Yah-Tah-Hey-Si-Kess
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Subject: Re: 60 buck 120GB Hard Drive
From: "Brian Riley (maillist)" <n1bq_list@wulfden.org>
Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 19:32:27 -0400
X-Message-Number: 17
Compustar DSS-10 - server unit for a CPM based system - a 5" 10 MB drive
with its own proprietary network interface went for $3000 - I cringe when I
think back on paying that after recently buying a 120 GB for $xxx!
On 5/25/03 12:37, "John R. Ackermann N8UR" <jra@febo.com> wrote:
>I usually avoid showing how old I am by staying out of these "I remember
>when..." contests, but the first PC hard drive I bought was 20MB and it was
>$1000 (discounted "dealer price" -- some fools probably paid even more). I
>was thrilled with that deal because we had actually ordered a 10MB drive at
>that price, but they had shifted to the larger unit by the time our order
>came up in the queue (IIRC, we waited about 6 weeks to get the thing).
>
>73,
>John
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Subject: Re: DB-9 pin outs
From: "Joseph C. Bender" <n8xre@benderhome.net>
Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 19:42:33 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 18
John Kraus said:
>Here is the setup:
>
>Icom IC-T2H sport with the TTII installed in a AA alkaline shell with a
>power pole glued to the outside that feeds both the radio and the TTII.
>There is a DB-9 mounted in the side of the AA pack that serves to
>connect to both the GPS and the PC for programming.
So, if I'm understanding you correctly, you're feeding power to both
the radio and the TTII by the fact that the TT-II is sitting in a
battery case, and the case's contacts feed the radio?
>I am worried about sending 12V into the computer when I connect the TTII
>for programming. Is there a safe pin to apply 12V to on a standard DB-9
>port?
Is it possible to feed power back up the DB-9 to the GPS? Or do you
plan on modifying it to do so?
Also, by definition, RS-232 at a PC is +12/-12V. The problem usually
isn't feeding a PC from an external device, it's feeding the external
device from the PC, matching RS-232 levels back down to TTL. The only pin
I'd stay away from is pin 5, which is RS-232 signal ground.
.....Okay, I'm changing my mind here as I think about this...
Actually, it's not a good idea to feed it anywhere back into the computer.
There's not really a good place to put voltage, without screwing up
handshaking or potentially frying something.
I'd keep it a separate connector, to be on the safe side, maybe using a
coaxial power socket on the battery case and connector on the GPS side.
It'd be one thing if the device were just attached to the GPS all the
time, but if it gets moved around, it's a risk I personally wouldn't take
with my gear.
>By the way this makes a great 6 watt tracker radio setup. AES sells them
>for < $xxx and often < $xx.
>
Good to know.
--
Joseph C. Bender
n8xre at benderhome net
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