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Subject: Repeater Controller
From: "Ron and Val Smith" <rsmitj@tpgi.com.au>
Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 06:29:04 +1000
X-Message-Number: 15

Hi All,
I have a modified Philips 828 transceiver which is running on 145.175, the
APRS frequency in Australia.
It is to be set up as an APRS repeater, preferably stand alone.  It will be
at a solar site.
What is the latest in available hardware to convert the rig into a stand
alone repeater for APRS at a solar site?
Thanks
Ron Smith
vk4ags

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Subject: Re:  th7d 9600
From: "Mark Fellhauer" <sparkfel@qwest.net>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 15:36:09 -0500
X-Message-Number: 16

At 08:20 AM 5/15/2003, Wes Johnston wrote:
>Ok, I've been playing... I've got a spirit 2 9600 baud TNC recieving packets
>from a kenwood d7.
>
>Lessons learned.....
>1. TXd for the kenwood cold start TXD should be 200mS
>2. TXd for mic-e mode, the minimum of 100ms (what granularity!)
>3. with XMITOK does not inhibit TX on the spirit 2 when it's in KISS mode.
>
>other lessons learned this week....
>IC281 takes 150mS to come on the air.  140ms works occasionaly, 150ms is
>100%.

The THD-7 fails miserably at 9600 - the buffer is too small and too slow to 
handle any amount of text.  This has been thoroughly documented and 
discussed here in the past.  Yes it'll work for small posit packets, but 
not for anything else.

73,

Mark
KC7BXS

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Subject: Cable Modems on HAM bands?
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 16:43:35 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 17

A Cable Modem operates at RF (in a cable TV system).

WHy not simply hook it up to a converter to up/down convert the signal to
a pair of HAM bands and get High data rates on the HAM bands.

This idea came from Ron Parise WA4SIR during a chat around the water
cooler.  There's lots we don't know, and maybe someone on the APRS or
AMSAT sigs works in the industry and can fill us in.

Things we assume:
1) Uplink is below 50 MHz, downlink is somewhere in the CATV passband.
2) Since uplink and donwlink are different, then a "repeater" would need
to be installed in the city to tie everyone togther (or a HAM satellite).

This approach at taking a consumer item and modifying it for HAM use has a
certain atttraction, since it gives us an unlimited supply of
cheap hardware on which to build...  The ONLY thing we have to build are
the repeaters (or satellite), for all of use users its plug-n-play.

Any experts want to fill in the modem details and the bandwidths and
frequencies?

Bob

Since the uplink (inlink) is low data rate, it could probably fit easily
in the 220 or 440 band somewhere, the downlink (or outlink) might fit in
900 or 1296 somewhere...?

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Subject: Re: Repeater Controller
From: WA8LMF2@aol.com
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 16:50:02 EDT
X-Message-Number: 18

For solar sites, the Kantronics KCP3+ TNC is the no-brainer choice.  It has 
built-in APRS-specific digipeating "smarts" as a standard feature.  Nothing 
else  comes close for low power consumption -- 9mA (nine milliamps!), even 
less with the front panel LEDs disabled.  You don't need anything else except 
the transceiver and antenna.  

By way of comparison:
    TNC2 or clone (i.e. MFJ-1270) running UI-DIGI firmware    270mA
     AEA PK-232                                               980mA.
     PC running digipeater software                           1500-3000mA
          (assuming a laptop running on a DC-DC converter  - - you will still 
          need a TNC or soundcard interface if you run the AGW Packet Engine
          softmodem)

Stephen H. Smith                   wa8lmf @ aol.com
Home Page:                                         http://wa8lmf.com
Ham Radio/Mobile SSTV page:     http://members.aol.com/wa8lmf/ham
APRS Stuff                                              
http://members.aol.com/wa8lmf/aprs

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Subject: Re:  th7d 9600
From: wes@johnston.net
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 17:34:14 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 19

All I am expecting the d7 to do is send a mic-e once in a while.  9k6 on a
voice channel is not as annoying as 1200baud mic-e bursts.
Wes

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Subject: Re: APRS Install on BMW Motorcycle
From: "Dick C. Reichenbach" <dreichen@columbus.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 17:44:18 -0400
X-Message-Number: 20

Presenter at the Square Route Rally, very cool.

Here's the link to my current pictures page.
http://www.urec.net/users/dcreich/pictures.htm

I should have my bike at Marions Saturday night, if you want a closer
look at the tupperware. (^8

Basicly I use a D700, Garmin GPS and an Autocom Intercom.

As far as ABS goes, the BMW Bikes with ABS use special sheilded coil and
plug wires.  I tried to get a set, but didn't want to pay the extra
money.  As far as the bikes go, BMW invalidates warrenty work for all
kinds of reasons, but I've heard both good and bad stories.  I've heard
cases where they've covered things not normally covered under warrenty,
like clutch spline shafts.  And I've heard the opposite stories, too. 
Your dealer is important here, a good dealer will go to bat for you with
BMWNA.  A not-so-good dealer won't.

Dick Reichenbach - KC8OBZ
Buckeye Beemers

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Subject: Re: Repeater Controller
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 19:02:51 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 21

On Thu, 15 May 2003 WA8LMF2@aol.com wrote:

>For solar sites, the Kantronics KCP3+ TNC is the no-brainer choice....
>9 milliamps!), even less with the front panel LEDs disabled.  You don't
>need anything else except the transceiver and antenna.

And it has built-in APRS telemetry, giving you a packet every now and
then with 5 analog values.  Nice to know things like:

  Battery VOltage
  Solar charge current
  Battery load current
  temperature (ambient)
  Termerpture (XMTR)

APRSdos plots these things for you..
etc

See the TELEMTRY.TXT file included in all APRSdos docs...

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Subject: APRS Split Screen Display
From: Andrew Rich <andrew.rich@telstra.com>
Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 10:28:45 +1000
X-Message-Number: 22

Gents,

How does this sound, maybe the APRS software GURUS would like to 
implement it ?

Half the screen = local area map
Other Half = auto scrolling close in maps.

Just like UI-VIEW has one map now, have two, one fixed and the other 
autotracking a car say.

ideas ?

Andrew vk4tec

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Subject: Re: Repeater Controller
From: Andrew Rich <andrew.rich@telstra.com>
Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 10:29:42 +1000
X-Message-Number: 23

Basic Stamp

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Subject: AGWPE
From: "Joe Della Barba" <joe@dellabarba.com>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 21:29:16 -0400
X-Message-Number: 24

Help!
I cannot get APRS+SA to interact with AGWPE/KIPSS. AGWPE and KIPSS seem to
work OK, but APRS+ does not seem to be able to connect to it.
Any hints?
73
N3HGB
Joe

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Subject: Re: AGWPE
From: "Ken Patterson" <kenp@etex.net>
Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 03:48:01 -0000
X-Message-Number: 25

Are you sure you downloaded the correct file?

You need this: KipSSPE

not: KipSS.

de Ken,
N5EQT

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