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Subject: Re: Still plunking along
From: Richard Garcia <k4gps@bellsouth.net>
Date: 04 Jan 2004 23:04:53 -0500
X-Message-Number: 25
it will digipeat just fine but it will not digipeat unless you put your
callsign in the path. RELAY will not work.
I would suggest reading Bob's MOBILE.TXT I believe, it has been about 8
years since I have read them, also the KAM manual. Read all the
instructions on Alias and UNPROTO. Best is to do some reading on basic
packet protocal, this is just starter stuff on packet radio and any
packet text will be helpfull.
On Sun, 2004-01-04 at 22:38, Keith Allen wrote:
>Okay, actually read some of Bob's text files and put in a beacon text
>message that has started showing up on the system. Now I have found
>out by digipeating my mobile through my digipeater that it is putting
>the word relay into the packet forwarded instead of my callsign.
> Apparently my alias callsign goes in there. Should I put my regular
>callsign back in or will it not digipeat to APRS then???
>
>Keith, AG4AC, Alabammie
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Rich Garcia K4GPS Ex: KA2FXA and N2CZF
Echolink Node 12637 K4GPS-R 444.400 PL 110.9 Jupiter FL.
http://www.richgarcia.net
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Subject: Re: Voice Alert
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 23:19:10 -0500 (EST)
X-Message-Number: 26
On Sun, 4 Jan 2004, someone wrote about lack of general use of Voice
Alert:
>It may also be that more aprs users are using just trackers, or dedicated
>radios, and not the Kenwoods. For instance, I always have a tracker running
>(Pic-E), and add a tnc / laptop when on longer trips.
If one uses a tracker, then that doesnt prevent him from monitoring for
Voice Alert on his voice rig on long trips. Again, just tune to the nice
QUIET channel of 144.39 CTCSS 100 and drive peacefully... You wont be
pinging your presence to others, but you will hear if anyone else comes
in range of you..
>The radio is mounted and inaccesible, has no mic, etc. The 2m radio in the
>car doesn't decode PL, and I use it on the more conventional 146.52 and/ or
>other voice repeaters...
Ah, yes, that leaves you out. But most rigs these days have CTCSS decode
built in... de WB4APR
de WB4APR@amsat.org, Bob
PCsat WEB page http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/pcsat.html
ISS-APRS FAQ: http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/iss-faq.html
CUBESAT Designs http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/cubesat.html
APRS LIVE pages http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/aprs.html
APRS SATELLITES http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/astars.html
MIM/Mic-E/Mic-Lite http://ssdl.stanford.edu/mims/
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Subject: Re: Voice Alert
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 23:21:42 -0500 (EST)
X-Message-Number: 27
On Sun, 4 Jan 2004, Richard Amirault wrote:
>>With a clear horizon out 50 miles, and being only 10 Miles from
>>Atlanta and Decatur GA and other metro areas, I was surprised.
>>Further, of the few APRS operators I talked to on various repeaters
>>during my week in Georgia, none had heard of it.
>(snip)
>
>Strange as it may seem .. not all APRS operators subscribe to this list
>;-)
Ah, that is why I made my post. I hope that subscribers share what they
learn on the SIG and pass it along to the other APRS operators in their
areas that dont have time for the SIG...
de WB4APR@amsat.org, Bob
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Subject: Re: Voice Alert
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 23:23:40 -0500 (EST)
X-Message-Number: 28
All you do is run the D7 or D700 normally. But instaed of having the
volume turned DOWN on band-A, turn it up to near full volume and SILENCE it
by setting CTCSS 100.
Thats all there is to it.
bob
On Sun, 4 Jan 2004, KK4EMK wrote:
>Bob,
>
>You may not have heard any Voice Alerts while at Stone Mountain, however, I
>did notice you got several APRS messages - in addition to mine -- while you
>were at the rock.
>
>I have looked several places for Voice Alert instructions using a TH-D7
>without success. I'm looking for step by step equipment setup, operating
>procedures, etc. Since the ARRL book on APRS is out of print, where can a
>beginner get that kind of information?
>
>Allen
>KK4EMK
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Subject: Re: Still plunking along
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 23:29:37 -0500 (EST)
X-Message-Number: 29
Tihs is confusing. If he is trying to set up a RELAY only digi, then he
shoulod set the MYALIAS to RELAY, not MYCALL. But if he is anywhere near
lots of APRS activity, then it is not a good idea to use an old TNC like
this, because it does not do callsign substitution and so we cannot tell
how the packet is being digipaeted. It is better to use an uptodate TNC
with the callsign substituting UIDIGI code...
bob
On Sun, 4 Jan 2004, Earl Needham wrote:
>At 08:38 PM 1/4/2004, Keith Allen wrote:
>>Okay, actually read some of Bob's text files and put in a beacon text
>>message that has started showing up on the system. Now I have found out
>>by digipeating my mobile through my digipeater that it is putting the word
>>relay into the packet forwarded instead of my callsign. Apparently my
>>alias callsign goes in there. Should I put my regular callsign back in
>>or will it not digipeat to APRS then???
>
> RELAY is perfectly acceptable in the world of APRS. If you put
>your callsign in the MYALIAS, then it won't repeat anything that's
>addresses via "RELAY", and the value of the digi is lessened. My
>suggestion is that you are doing just fine, and you might want to work with
>APRS for a while before you try anything else. At some point, you MAY want
>to use the TNC in KISS-mode and use a computer-based digi program, but that
>isn't necessary unless you decide you want to do it.
>
> 7 3
> Earl
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