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TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Digest for Sunday, December 28, 2003.
1. Re: Use of Email Confirmation Service on Mailing Li sts
2. Unproto
3. Re: Use of Email Confirmation Service on Mailing Lists
4. Re: Unproto
5. Re: [ui-view] 1st Time Setup & COM Cables
6. Re: Unproto
7. Re: Unproto
8. Re: Use of Email Confirmation Service on Mailing Lists
9. Re: Use of Email Confirmation Service on Mailing Lists
10. Rabbit aprs
11. KF4UXI
12. Re: KPC-3 does interesting things...
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Subject: Re: Use of Email Confirmation Service on Mailing Li sts
From: "Christensen, Eric" <CHRISTENSENE@MAIL.ECU.EDU>
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 00:12:31 -0500
X-Message-Number: 1
I use SPAMARREST. I can add Listserv addresses to the "Allowed" list and it
works flawlessly!
Eric KF4OTN
-----Original Message-----
From: WA8LMF2@aol.com [mailto:WA8LMF2@aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 17:42
To: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group
Subject: [aprssig] Re: Use of Email Confirmation Service on Mailing Lists
Of course this whole problem would be solved if the brain-dead list server
handling this group would forward messages with "aprssig@lists.tapr.org" as
the sender (the way practically every other list I have ever been on does)
instead of using the originator's address as the "FROM:" field.
One could then set incoming mail filters to pass a single address instead
of having to accommodate the address of every list member.
It would also make the task of filtering spam from the archive stream a lot
easier too....
Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf (at) aol.com
Home Page: http://wa8lmf.com
Ham Radio/Mobile SSTV page: http://members.aol.com/wa8lmf/ham
APRS Stuff
http://members.aol.com/wa8lmf/aprs
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Subject: Unproto
From: James Smith <k9apr@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 10:08:59 -0500
X-Message-Number: 2
Would someone please educate this user in and around the Racine, Wi ...
He has some clue on setting up unprotos because ui-view doesn't default
to this type of path.
WIDE7-7,TRACE7-7 ...........
N9**R>N9IJ-10*>WIDE7-1>TRACE7-7>APU16N [UI]:=4244.77N/08747.17W-**** ***
** **** ******* {UIV23}
N9**R>N9IJ-10>WIDE7>K9TNW-10*>TRACE7-6>APU16N
[UI]:=4244.77N/08747.17W-**** *** ** **** *******{UIV23}
The "*" shields information....
http://k9apr.no-ip.org for the ui-view webserver site
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73, James, K9APR
Chairman \ Coordinator
Tri-State APRS Working Group
http://www.tawg.org
mailto:k9apr@tawg.org
Run a APRS Website? Why not join the APRS Webring. http://www.tawg.org/join.htm
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Subject: Re: Use of Email Confirmation Service on Mailing Lists
From: "Brian Riley (maillist)" <n1bq_list@wulfden.org>
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 11:16:37 -0500
X-Message-Number: 3
For what it's worth, for Mac users out there I use SpamSeive and its
requires me to hand process maybe 2-3 messages a week out of 2-300 per day.
I highly recommend it.
On 12/27/03 5:23 PM, "Georgette Sampson" <georgette.sampson@cox.net> wrote:
>Yes. Concur.
>
>By the way, I'm using SpamPal (free download), and so far I like it, and it
>is working 100%. It's only been a couple of days though, so no jumping
>up and down just yet. [ do a google on spampal and you'll find it ]
>
>----- Original Message -----
>
>>Sorry, but I'm not going to click on emails saying click here to
>>be approved.
>>
>>YOU approve me, or get lost!
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Subject: Re: Unproto
From: Earl Needham <needhame1@yucca.net>
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 09:21:54 -0700
X-Message-Number: 4
At 08:08 AM 12/28/2003, James Smith wrote:
>Would someone please educate this user in and around the Racine, Wi ... He
>has some clue on setting up unprotos because ui-view doesn't default to
>this type of path.
>WIDE7-7,TRACE7-7 ...........
>
>N9**R>N9IJ-10*>WIDE7-1>TRACE7-7>APU16N [UI]:=4244.77N/08747.17W-**** ***
>** **** ******* {UIV23}
>N9**R>N9IJ-10>WIDE7>K9TNW-10*>TRACE7-6>APU16N
>[UI]:=4244.77N/08747.17W-**** *** ** **** *******{UIV23}
Since we're on the subject, let me relate what I saw not too long
ago --
Somebody was using a path of RELAY,WIDE7-7,SGATE on their mobile. Too bad
I can't remember where I was when I saw it. It might be interesting to
watch for these things for a while, and see what we might get fixed. Or
not get fixed, as the case may be.
Earl
Earl Needham, KD5XB, Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
KD5XB-2>APW251,PCSAT-1%:=3425.83N/10313.55W-PHG7150/WinAPRS 2.5.1
-EARL_CLOVIS -251-<630>
SETI@Home: 11197WU/7.26yrs
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Subject: Re: [ui-view] 1st Time Setup & COM Cables
From: Larry McDavid <lmcdavid@lmceng.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 08:50:25 -0800
X-Message-Number: 5
I asked this same question regarding D700 COM cabling on the APRS
reflector and received no definitive answer. It may be convenient for
some to use a computer serial cable that includes all 9 wires, but this
is not always the case. Consider, for example, the case when one is
fishing a cable from an automobile trunk to the dash area; good luck
doing this if there is a DB9 connector on the cable end.
In my case, I ran a shielded 5 conductor cable (24 AWG) and installed
connectors. Why five conductors? Because I tested the D700 with a
computer and found that three wires actually worked but that the D700
does assert CTS on Pin 8; thus, for certainty of operation in case this
CTS signal was ever actually needed for data control, I included these
two handshake signals: CTS and RTS. With signal return, RXD and TXD this
makes 5 wires. I connected the shield only to the shell of the connector
at the D700.
What about DTR and DSR? These D700 COM connector signals are inactive,
not asserted; in fact, they seem to float at D700 power-on. But, some
systems do use DSR. If the D700 ever asserted this signal, it would look
for a DTR (or, the inverse, if you care to determine whether the D700
thinks it is DCE or DTE). So, I looped DTR and DSR (pins 4 and 6) at
both the D700 end and the computer end within the two connectors. This
still totals 5 wires in the cable.
Frankly, I expect that three wires would always be enough but I have
done only limited testing with three wires only. A three-wire cable did
work in all my tests programming the D700 from a laptop, however.
Depending on the speed of the computer or the speed of processing within
the D700, CTS and RTS may need to handshake for data. DTR and DSR,
however, are equipment-status signals and never handshake for data.
Why did I not just use a 7 or 9-wire cable? First, RI and DCD are modem
signals and, in my own experience, have never been used in other
communications systems. I had a difficult enough time fishing (nine
different cables, thank you very much) cables front-to-back in my car
and I could not find a 7 conductor shielded or unshielded cable. I found
eight and, curiously, nine conductor cables locally but they were much
larger and less flexible. So, I used the 5 conductor cable and it works
fine with the D700.
I also wanted a means to power up the GPS receiver (a Garmin 15H) when
the D700 was ON (or, if the ignition was ON--but that's another story).
I picked off the D700-asserted CTS signal (about +9.2 vdc) using an
IGFET and included a several-second time delay in case this handshake
line ever actually handshaked... In my mobile installation, the GPS
receiver is powered-ON if either the ignition is ON or the D700 is ON.
So, although the D700 CTS signal does not seem to be used (it might
handshake if a lot of data were sent to the computer APRS application),
I found a use for this signal.
Now, if one had the space or freedom to use a pre-made serial port
cable, I agree that would be easier and I do encourage that solution.
But, if for some reason this approach is not satisfactory, then don't
assume that all nine wires are really needed. A little study and testing
will reveal the facts. But, few seem inclined to publish these results
so the question continues to be asked.
These are the facts from my experience and testing. You should validate
the functionality of 3 or 5 or 7 or 9 wires in your own installation. I
like 5 wires!
David VanHorn wrote:
>At 09:02 PM 12/27/2003 -0500, Ray Harden wrote:
>
>>No need to be concerned with how many ... just be sure it's straight-thru
>Serial.
>I bet it does matter, unless a three wire cable will do, which is why I asked.
--
Best wishes,
Larry McDavid W6FUB
Anaheim, CA (20 miles southeast of Los Angeles, near Disneyland)
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Subject: Re: Unproto
From: WA8LMF2@aol.com
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 16:15:49 EST
X-Message-Number: 6
In a message dated 12/28/2003 7:10:56 AM Pacific Standard Time,
k9apr@sbcglobal.net writes:
>Would someone please educate this user in and around the Racine, Wi ...
> N9**R>N9IJ-10*>WIDE7-1>TRACE7-7>APU16N [UI]:=4244.77N/08747.17W-**** ***
> ** **** ******* {UIV23}
> N9**R>N9IJ-10>WIDE7>K9TNW-10*>TRACE7-6>APU16N
> [UI]:=4244.77N/08747.17W-**** *** ** **** *******{UIV23}
>
> The "*" shields information....
If you are going to munge the call, how do we know what user to educate ????
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