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TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Digest for Saturday, October 11, 2003.
1. Fw: BSPL (fwd)
2. Re: Fw: BSPL (fwd)
3. Re: Fw: BSPL (fwd)
4. Re: Fw: BSPL (fwd)
5. Re: Fw: BSPL (fwd)
6. Re: WARNING - an OT question about FRS
7. Useful APRS Web Pages
8. APRS dos questions
9. Re: BSPL vs. RotoRooter
10. Re: Fw: BSPL (fwd)
11. Re: Useful APRS Web Pages
12. Re: Useful APRS Web Pages
13. Re: APRS dos questions
14. NSTAR balloon flight Sunday morning
15. Re: Fw: BSPL (fwd)
16. Re: Fw: BSPL (fwd)
17. Check the Spec's [was:Tweak your TNC]
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Subject: Fw: BSPL (fwd)
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:13:44 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 1
Broadband through the sewer.
This is either a joke or a great idea!
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Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:42:38 +0000 (GMT+00:00)
This was too good not to comment on...the booth across from ours at
TELECOM is by KA-TE systems. They make a system which, according to the
sign, brings Broadband to the Building and features No Digging.
How? Over power lines? Over cable tv? NO
Through the Sewer pipe! (I'm not joking).
It is a fiber optic cable that snakes through the serwer into your
building and brings the broadband signal. The pipes, trunks, everything
is in place.
They have several transparent plastic tubes set up to show you how
it works...
Paul
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Subject: Re: Fw: BSPL (fwd)
From: Jack Cavanagh <cjcav@earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:40:56 -0400
X-Message-Number: 2
Broadband over Sewer Lines
It is for real
http://www.ka-te-system.com/html/untere.html
They are a Swiss Company that makes sewer line robots for repair.
Jack/KB4XF
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Subject: Re: Fw: BSPL (fwd)
From: "David Thege" <dthege@conpoint.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:43:18 -0500
X-Message-Number: 3
I'd be curious to see where it comes out of the sewer line at. Kitchen sink
or toilet bowl???
Dave N0XBN
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Subject: Re: Fw: BSPL (fwd)
From: Randy Allen <ka0azs@earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:45:52 -0400
X-Message-Number: 4
Wasn't this a Dilbert episode not too long ago?
--
Randy Allen, KAĜAZS
EC, Montgomery CO Ohio
OH Dist. 3 ARES Web Page:
http://www.qsl.net/ohd3ares/
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Subject: Re: Fw: BSPL (fwd)
From: Gerry Creager N5JXS <gerry.creager@tamu.edu>
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 10:35:08 -0500
X-Message-Number: 5
It's real. They deliver a fiber bundle... or at least a pair... to a
building.
gerry
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Subject: Re: WARNING - an OT question about FRS
From: Neil Johnson <njohnsn@njohnsn.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 10:26:31 -0500
X-Message-Number: 6
On Friday 10 October 2003 11:36 am, Dale Blanchard wrote:
>I personally think the Motorola is best. They have better audio because
>of the voice compander. Available with dual drop in charger. More
>money,better radio.
I have a pair of older Talkabout 6300's which I really like (Other than the
PTT being on the front of the unit).
However, Be Carefull !
Most of the newer low-end Motorola FRS radios aren't even designed and built
by Motorola any more, but off-shore contractors. It's the only way they could
stay price compettive with their rivals (who are doing the exactly same
thing).
The only thing Motorola about them is the bat-wings label on the front.
--
Neil Johnson
http://www.njohnsn.com
PGP key available on request.
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Subject: Useful APRS Web Pages
From: "Ken Patterson" <kenp@etex.net>
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 10:40:06 -0500
X-Message-Number: 7
While doing a Google search on an unrelated subject, I ran across this
useful page for calculating a station's PHG value.
http://www.nashvilleaprs.net/apps/phgcalc.php
Does anyone know of a web page that would similarly calculate or encode
a mic-e string?
Those of us updating our KPC-3+ station and/or digi settings could
replace our position strings with the shortened mic-e format.
de Ken,
N5EQT
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Subject: APRS dos questions
From: Mark Earle <wa2mct@mearle.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 10:52:07 -0500
X-Message-Number: 8
Bob,
OK.. aprstxt appears to work on my small dos Zeos palm pc (not a modern
"Palm PDA") :-)
aprsmin, ditto, if I make the directories it expects.
How would I get just a map of TX or a few TX maps ? It appears I have to
have a file in maplist ? Also which ZIP on the TAPR site would hve Tx?
So far SEMAPS25, SOMAPS01, MMMAPS25, WMAPS30 don't appear to have them.. ??
Thanks. Still reading on all this.
) ) de WA2MCT Mark
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Subject: Re: BSPL vs. RotoRooter
From: Larry McDavid <lmcdavid@lmceng.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 08:55:05 -0700
X-Message-Number: 9
I've had my home sewer line cleaned several times over 30 years.
I wonder how friendly that rotating blade is to the fiber bundle...
>It's real. They deliver a fiber bundle... or at least a pair... to a
>building.
--
Best wishes,
Larry McDavid W6FUB
Anaheim, CA (20 miles southeast of Los Angeles, near Disneyland)
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Subject: Re: Fw: BSPL (fwd)
From: Neil Johnson <njohnsn@njohnsn.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 10:50:04 -0500
X-Message-Number: 10
On Saturday 11 October 2003 07:45 am, Randy Allen wrote:
>Wasn't this a Dilbert episode not too long ago?
>
>Bob Bruninga wrote:
>>Broadband through the sewer.
>>
>>This is either a joke or a great idea!
Makes more sense then Internet over powerlines...
I suspect the cable might be more susceptible to BIFF's[1], not to mention
the Roto-Rooter man.
Way back in college I spent a summer doing sanitary sewer inspection.
We would "block" (restrict the size of the the sewer pipe at several
locations) using expensive commercial inflatable plugs, or the "cheapo"
method, a PVC pipe and a "hippty-hop" (those inflatable balls with the
handle that kids sit on and bounce around, we used the handle to tie a rope
which we would secure to man hole ladder so it wouldn't get sucked down
the pipe).
Then the fun part, we go to the center of the area we blocked, pop the
manhole cover, put a gasoline powered fan over the top of the man hole, and
then lower a couple smoke bombs down inside.
You could then find where there were leaks by looking for white smoke.
Unfortunately, if you had a dry trap in you house you got a surprise (We
did canvas the neighborhood with flyers to notify people, but we still got
to see fireengines show up about the 2-3 times a week).
My favorite quote was "95% of the sewage is just water and soap, it's the
other 5% you have to worry about".
-Neil
[1] BIFF = (Backhoe Induced Fiber Failure :) )
--
Neil Johnson
http://www.njohnsn.com
PGP key available on request.
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Subject: Re: Useful APRS Web Pages
From: "Ev Tupis (W2EV)" <w2ev@arrl.net>
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 11:57:48 -0400
X-Message-Number: 11
Here's one that includes the new extended PHG construct:
http://www.apritch.myby.co.uk/phgrcalc.htm
And for those willing to think to the future...here's one that includes a
newly emerging PHGra construct (altitude embedded at the end, so you don't
have to waste TX time with A=#####):
http://www.apritch.myby.co.uk/phgracalc.htm
fwiw...
Ev Tupis, W2EV
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Subject: Re: Useful APRS Web Pages
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 12:21:59 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 12
On Sat, 11 Oct 2003, Ken Patterson wrote:
>Does anyone know of a web page that would similarly calculate or encode
>amic-e string? Those of us updating our KPC-3+ station and/or digi
>settings could replace our position strings with the shortened mic-e
>format.
APRSdos will tell you the compressed format for any position of the
cursor. I think it is Maps=Plots=Format or something like that. It
displays the 11 byte "compressed" format.
The compresed format would be better than the Mic-E because APRSdos
interprets all Mic-e's aas "mobiles". So when you hit display-mobiles,
you would see just mobiles (and any Mic-E formatted other stations). But
its nice to see the digis at the same time, so that wouldnot be that
bad...
Bob
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