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universe, the less we use the word "spontaneous" to explain an action or
process we do not understand.
>What has been needed is a more analytic approach, that can bring an
> understanding of just how systems of independent agents can organize and
> conduct themselves, and what conditions are critical to having them make
> collective decisions of high quality.
Yes, if we could just organise and control chaos, then chaos would be a much
more effective tool. (snigger)
>
> Scientists have begun doing that by studying ant colonies, simulating
their
> collective behavior on computers. The teams doing that call their field
"ant
> colony optimization", but it is about a lot more than just ant colonies.
Yes, it sure is. Especially since each ant operates independently, and the
activity of an ant colony only appears "spontaneously organised" to someone
who doesn't know a heck of a lot about ants. Are you suggesting that Hams
emit a smelly sunstance to act as a chemical marker so that other Hams will
tend to move in the same direction? If so, your ideas are doomed to
obscurity, according to my XYL. It'll never catch on.
> It is being used to find efficient solutions to the classic "traveling
salesman
> problem" and to the routing of data packets over complex networks.
The solution to the "travelling salesman problem" has been known for many
years. I fail to see, however, any real connection between routing packets
over a complex network, as opposed to the act of making a salesman sleep in
the barn instead of putting him in the sack with your beautiful teenage
daughter.
Back to the drawing board, OM!
--
73 DE Charles Brabham, N5PVL
N5PVL @ N5PVL.#NTX.TX.USA.NOAM
http://www.texoma.net/~n5pvl
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Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 08:38:18 +0200
From: "Anders" <ahoej@hotmail.com>
Subject: Swarm intelligence
Buzz off, and get a life!
Your off-topic discussion has been reported to the KGB and Bill Gates!
(Please note: I´m still here!!!!!)
John
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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 22:52:04 -0000
From: "Loyd C. Headrick" <kf4ugt@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Yaesu
however 1200bps is used on vhf any fast would go out of bandwidth
"Charles Brabham" <n5pvl@texoma.net> wrote in message
news:8c8mp405kr@enews4.newsguy.com...
>
> PreCool <precoolNOprSPAM@email.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:29e231b8.a4c7f51d@usw-ex0101-008.remarq.com...
> >
> > Your FT-50 will do 1200 bps packet only.
>
> Not true! There is a 4800 baud driver for the soundcard and FlexNet. This
> is as fast as you can go with "standard", off the shelf Ham equipment,
with
> the exception of a very few 9600 baud-ready (and faster) radios.
>
> The trouble with 4800 baud, of course, lies in finding someone else
> interested enough in high-speed packet to bother with switching out their
> soundcard driver.
>
> I hope you have better luck that I have.
>
> If you are interested in running 4800 baud and have trouble finding the
> driver, I'll be glad to send it to you as an E-mail attachment.
>
> --
>
> 73 DE Charles Brabham, N5PVL
> N5PVL @ N5PVL.#NTX.TX.USA.NOAM
> http://www.texoma.net/~n5pvl
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 21:57:04 -0700
From: "Jim Allen" <jmallen@altavista.net>
Subject: Yaesu
Not sure how that can be, with the proliferation of "out-of-the-box" 9600
baud ready 2M radios over the past few years. Would also wonder about the
4800/9600 backbone links on 6M. Personally, I liked 9.6k/19.2k on 440 - but
nothing precludes its use on VHF.
Jim Allen
KC7BDP
Loyd C. Headrick <kf4ugt@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:pYSG4.1613$Tk.3543@news1.atl...
> however 1200bps is used on vhf any fast would go out of bandwidth
> "Charles Brabham" <n5pvl@texoma.net> wrote in message
> news:8c8mp405kr@enews4.newsguy.com...
> >
> > PreCool <precoolNOprSPAM@email.com.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:29e231b8.a4c7f51d@usw-ex0101-008.remarq.com...
> > >
> > > Your FT-50 will do 1200 bps packet only.
> >
> > Not true! There is a 4800 baud driver for the soundcard and FlexNet.
This
> > is as fast as you can go with "standard", off the shelf Ham equipment,
> with
> > the exception of a very few 9600 baud-ready (and faster) radios.
> >
> > The trouble with 4800 baud, of course, lies in finding someone else
> > interested enough in high-speed packet to bother with switching out
their
> > soundcard driver.
> >
> > I hope you have better luck that I have.
> >
> > If you are interested in running 4800 baud and have trouble finding the
> > driver, I'll be glad to send it to you as an E-mail attachment.
> >
> > --
> >
> > 73 DE Charles Brabham, N5PVL
> > N5PVL @ N5PVL.#NTX.TX.USA.NOAM
> > http://www.texoma.net/~n5pvl
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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