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Packet-Radio Digest Thu, 6 Apr 2000 Volume 2000 : Issue 84
Today's Topics:
"baycom" like modem based on the mx614???
Packet.exe Thanks Larry
Swarm intelligence (2 msgs)
Yaesu (2 msgs)
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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 22:44:51 -0400
From: "Pierre Martel" <petem001@hotmail.com>
Subject: "baycom" like modem based on the mx614???
Hi is there anyone here who have build or use a baycom like packet modem
based on the mx614 chip????
I've never been on packet and started collecting info over the net and found
a diagram made by SP3EJJ
I already found a supplier for the chip near my home...used Eagle layout
software to create a pcboard template
(didn't make the board yet)...and I can have all the rest of the stuff
easily....but is this thing really working?
is there a kit I could purchase from somewhere? (in Canada would be
better..Montreal,Quebec even better..)
cause I don't want to spend too much on something I am not even sure I will
like...
(please excuse my typos and strange writing..my first language being
French...)
thanks again..
Pierre Martel
VE2PUK
Montreal
Quebec
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Date: 5 Apr 2000 20:55:51 GMT
From: jfenn@lava.net (Joseph Fenn)
Subject: Packet.exe Thanks Larry
I would like to congratulate Larry Kenney on his wonderful
treatise recently posted here "Packet.exe". I grabbed this
and passed it to all the Hawaii State MARS goups including
ArmyMars, AfMars, Navy/Marine corps Mars. As you all may
or may not know, all MARS services in recent years have
been reverting to Packet, and Pactor modes for emergency
traffic handling. Radio is after all the ultimate means
of communicating when all the power companies, ISP's etc
start crashing in a bonafide emergency and MARS is placing
special emphasis on RADIO as the primary mediunm when
such emergencies occur. I am emailing Larry direct also
but just wanted this usegroup to be aware they missed a
good thing if they did not download "Packet.exe" when it
was posted here.
Joe Fenn AM6JF/KH6JF Army Mars
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Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 10:14:33 -0500
From: "Charles Brabham" <n5pvl@texoma.net>
Subject: Swarm intelligence
Jon Roland <jon.roland@constitution.org> wrote in message
news:Chameleon.954824415.jon.roland@CRL.crl.com...
> Swarm intelligence
>
> For centuries philosophers have observed the collective decisionmaking of
> social organisms, including human beings, and their often amazing ability
to
> solve complex problems and conduct complex operations with little or no
> central direction.
Actually, philosophers, sociologists and behavioral phsycologists have
observed for centuries the curious way an indiviudual's "I.Q." plummets when
he finds himself acting as part of a mob. Mobs create chaos pretty
efficiently, but are not noted for their great intellectual accomplishments.
The FIRST thing any good propagandist does when preparing to give a speech
is to be sure he adresses as large a group of people as possible at one
time. This is because in groups of a less than (roughly) a dozen or so, "mob
physcology" is unlikely to come into play, leaving the members of that group
with their critical faculties largely intact.
>Most classic approaches to solving social problems have
> focused on the development of central control systems, but the examples of
> social systems that are able to function effectively without central
> direction call those approaches into question, especially since the
results
> of using such systems have tended to be dismal.
Dismal results from attempts to solve problems with mobs are only to be
expected. A mob is a mindless, faceless creature that tosses such
considerations as decency and the basics of humanity out with sickening
ease. Usually they go for the blood.
>
> Libertarian free-market economists and political philosophers have raised
> the doctrine of "spontaneous order" as an article of faith, but it is also
> clear that sometimes the only spontaneous order is that of the desert or
the
> grave.
Spontaneous order is about as valid as the black-ages belief in "spontaneous
generation of life", as was believed to happen when maggots and flies
mystereously appeared on lifeless cow dung. The more we learn about the
To be continued in digest: pr_2000_84B
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