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Packet-Radio Digest         Wed, 21 Jul 99       Volume 99 : Issue  168

Today's Topics:
                           Future of Packet
                     RS-232 Terminals in DFW Area

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Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 20:35:05 -0500
From: "Peter O. Brackett" <ab4bc@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Future of Packet

Folks:

The main problem with amateur packet radio networks today is that they are
agonizingly SLOW compared to the readily and economically available
commercial alternatives.  Modern data networking applications simply don't
work well when running only at 300 bps, or 1200 bps.  [or even at 56,000
bps!]

If we don't do something to address the speed issue with amateur packet
radio, I believe that it will simply die from boredom!  Also the whole world
has now migrated to TCP/IP.  There are currently over 300 million terminals
world wide that now speak TCP/IP!  We are still in the dark ages with AX.25.
Face it, there are no more commercial X.25 networks.  The world has moved
on!  What?

I ask, how can we as amateur radio packet radio enthusiasts [sic] get our
act together and get out of the 1200 bps AX.25 "swamp"?

Lord knows we have plenty of RF bandwidth still available to us [for now].

If we don't get organized for success in this area, we will end up losing
all of those uwave frequencies, and the younger generation will simply be
surfing the Internet or Internet2 without us!

Any comments, thoughts?

        Peter   AB4BC

Ron wrote in message <7mtp75$q4m$4@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>...
>Hi
>      Reading with interest.
>
>I am using TCP/IP for packet with the baycom modem lately its gone downhill
>in this area of the UK  I have had messages on my system trying to go out
>for over 4 days unless everybody in the set-up helps each other I think it
>will fade away.
>
>73's ron g6wxs
>
>FeLiXTCPIP wrote in message
><19990718093735.15890.00002523@ng-ch1.aol.com>...
>>From what i have have seen packet is very popular, and will continue to be
>>popular. Some satellites operate packet, and there are many packet
>frequencies,
>>that are very active.
>>
>>Also, if you have a GPS you can participate in APRS.
>>
>>Also to operate Packet, you don't need a TNC.All you need is a computer
>with a
>>sound card.
>>
>>http://www.forthnet.gr/sv2agw/
>>has a sound card TNC. Download it, and listen.
>>
>
>


>.

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Date: 21 Jul 1999 06:05:31 GMT
From: jimlowther@aol.com (JimLowther)
Subject: RS-232 Terminals in DFW Area

I have four and a half RS-232 terminals salvaged from an old burroughs
minicomputer system.  One is one of the original Burroughs terminals, another
a
Visual 383, two and a half (communications board out of one) I can't remember
the brand, but one of the sets on West World 2 had a whole room full of them.

Not sure if these can be used with packet radio.  But if you have a project in
which  you could use a terminal, emial me.  I really don't need to keep these
around, but I hate to throw them out.  Also not wanting to give them to
someone
who just wants to butcher them for PS, etc.

Best wishes,

Jim Lowther
>.

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