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DT: Monday,January 16th.,2012 @ 1016hrs EST <JPST>
Hello Ian, and others , that might be following this topic, and our
exchanges. Sorry Ian, I am late with a reply, as I was doing
last minute trips before Maria flees the GWN for BRASIL and the
sun.
<< Quoting G0TEZ to FUEL @WW >>
> From : G0TEZ To : FUEL @WW
> Type/Status : B$ Date/Time : 14-Jan 19:53
> Bid : A30192G0TEZ Message # : 60338
> Title : RE: Ian G0TEZ's opinion ...
>
> This is all pert of my policy of listening to other coutrie's
> radio and TV stations. RT.COM is much easier than the
> old Radio Moscow and Kol Israel if your TV networks don't carry it.
I agree with you on that one. I like to hit the SW bands, for all
the chatter from extreme whatever to the other end, to come up with
an opinion.
Yes, I do remember Radio Moscow, but then also Voice of America, now
all replaced by the latest ones.
> The Keiser Report, a sort of jocular money programme on RT points
> out that it is more to do with oil and money than fighting for
> 'freedom' and 'democracy'.
Thats nothing new. This has been going on for Centurys. The European
Empires always had this in mind, and same plot followed by the British
Empire and their East India Company, that even had their own army and
navy, for protecting their money, etc. Nope nothing changed, just the
players.
> They said that American ships were on 'excercises' in the Gulf of Hormuz
> before the western news did, they also mentioned about American troops
> 'visiting ' Israel. In addition they mentioned that one British ship is
> there, no mention of our Astute class nuclear submarines but I would bet
> we have one there. The French also have an aircraft carrier on standby
> and they have nuclear submarines as well.
The American ships and others have been there, a lot longer then that
and other places, excercising what is called; "Right of Passage".
In the past, there were deliberate crashes between warships of nations
and some interesting U-tube videos.
All the nations, you mention, do have a commercial interest there, in
these regions, so no doubt on them being there to protect the interests
of the state, and citizens and their property etc.
> So, you are right. There could be some underwater warfare in the offing.
> I feel it is a bit sad that troops have just been withdrawn from Iraq and
> look like being posted to Iran while still being active in Afghanistan.
I only mention the torpedoeing of the Oil Tankers of the west as a dire
action of these states that are under threat from these countrys. The
other problem is the Treaty that exists between IRAN and neighbours as
well RUSSIA. In the past, RUSSIA made it clear they would side with IRAN
and the treaty is there. Will they honour it? The answer is, unknown
but they have other Allies.
If ISRAEL launches an attack on the nuke plants, IRAN will go to war,
which will drag everyone in, on both sides, whether we like it or not.
They have threatened...but held back. I call it Blinking.
> I don't know if it was RT or the BBC which pointed out that Iran has
> missiles which can get as far as Israel and Israel has had a large supply
> of nuclear missiles for a very long time, just as the poor little UK has.
Of course IRAN has missles capable of hitting Israel and points west.
I am sure ISRAEL can fire back too....nuke or not. Question is, do
both really want to launch nuke missles or not? You have to be really
crazy.
> The only logical answer seems to me to work on substitutes for petroleum
> so that we don't need to rely on the OPEC countries but that would upset
> the super rich oil firms and the politicians they put in power.
There are by the sources available to us all, alternatives to Oil and Petrol
for the car or heating. Natural GAS, etc....and emerging technologies,
The Greenies like the last one ...then they can disband and start on
another whinner campaign.
> Itranian missiles are no threat to us,the French or the Americas, they
> can't get that far so you won't need tha 200 imp gall tank for clean
> water just yet.
120miles away, the Arab freedom fighters or terrorists, crashed a plane
thus with all the human failsafe it isn't 100% perfect. I am saying
they would not need a missle. Lots of other ways to bring down the
civilized world, if you can call it civilized.
> The Russians could attack us but they are not going to bother,
> they have there own oil which they sell to Europe via the two large
> pipelines supplying oil and gas to Germany and Italy and onwards.
> I can't foresee them protecting Iran in any way, it's not on their
> interests.
I don't see RUSSIA as a threat at all. I see Treaty obligations.
We only need to look at how WW1 started and that didn't seem to be a go
until too late. They called it the dominoe effect. Should not have
happened ..but it did.
> On a lighter note, the Yanks have the peace loving O'bama, after all he
> did get awarded a Nobel Peace prize but he could be gone by next November,
> I cant see him starting a war.
I remember my Republican family saying if there is a Democrat in the
"white house" they get us into wars, and a Republican will get and keep
us out. Funny I have not seen this trend. For another trend, I note
as America became a power, it is in more wars then it might want to be
but then if they have a treaty, then they must live with the provisions
of that treaty, so war is always in the minds of most.
> The Jews have Netanyahu back again, ready to attack anybody but don't
> talk about it, it has just become a crime in Israel.
I am not fond of him either. He likes to bully other countrys, and
he better watch out who he bullies or belittles to get them on his
side...he might be alone when they need allies. BUT then the area
is of great interest to the west due to lots of religious beliefs
from there...so ????
> Sit back and watch and invest any spare money in Gazprom, they are doing
> well.
>
> PING,Ping,ping...ping.....ping...........
>
> 73 - Ian, G0TEZ @ GB7CIP
>
> Message timed: 19:52 on 2012-Jan-14 GMT
> Message sent using WinPack-Telnet V6.80
>
> [End of Message #60338 from G0TEZ]
I am getting rid of slowly my RSPs and investments to get better
returns in Brasil. My wife has stock there, and out performs me
all the time with the smaller amount she has...so we'll combine
and get better returns.
Petrol or GAS for the car was CDN$ 1.116:6/litre.
oh well see you later... 73 Pete VE3WBZ
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