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From: VE3WBZ@VE3LSR.#SCON.ON.CAN.NOAM
To : AUTO@WW
From : KB2VXA To : AUTO @WW
Type/Status : B$ Date/Time : 05-Dec 14:40
Bid : 10404_VK6ZRT Message # : 57647
Title : Re: VK3WBZ > various
>>"You don't know where I heard what?"
> I don't know where you heard "cell" substituted for "tank". There are
> living cells, voltiac cells and then a variation was invented, the fuel
> cell that produces electricity directly from fuel. Until it appeared on
> packet recently I've never heard of a fuel tank referred to as a fuel
> cell, somebody's monkeying around with the English language again.
OK ... Some the fuel for this version of MDI's aircar, is powered
by AIR from a AIR TANK, opposed to a Gas Tank or Petrol Tank
as opposed to ... then it's OK for NASA to say Fuel Cell, meaning
other forms of what fuels their appilications, BUT NO ONE on Earth
better not, cuz their folling about with the English langauge.
Huh ... Since the English language drops words from time to time
and adds new ones, then which English Language do you mean?
There is second English Language taught in UK ,etc schools...
> You say in effect there is no way to become energy independent
> but there is, solar electricity, wind power and solar heating have
> already accomplished the fact.
Huh..? I said there is no way to become energy independent? Really.
Your quoting the wrong one here Warren. I demonstrate this every
day, along with that, even garbage ouput <1> per month.
The boat is equipped to voyage around the world. solar ...wind
and water. There is no doubt I can use an air system for propeller
drive.
> Trouble is only the rich can achieve that goal, installation and
> maintanence is beyond the means of the average person.
The average person is too lazy, and let what's his name do it.
My neighbour down the road makes his only solar power, from plastic
bottles, and for wind power he has old blue tanks cut in half whirling
in the wind, produceing his power for the house etc.
> You're one of those who use a practical approach, conservation.
> Funny how that was rule number one in my family... TURN OUT THAT
> LIGHT! Ah, kids have other things on their minds but you have to
> teach them young or they'll be wasteful all their lives and complain
> "it costs too much, boohoo."
We were practical then and now. Then it was after the war. No one
in America or elsewhere had to live like people in the main theatre
of war. Now everything is taken for granted, and PCs and others
want this and this and that, and when it costs too much they cry
about taxes...but they want this and that, and when cuts are made
they cry even more.
War or Bust or pollution ... will give them all a taste of post war
conditions.
> You mentioned turbine powered cars, I don't know about clutches burning
> out but they went over like a lead balloon for another reason. Crysler
> produced a trail version, there still are a couple around, very rare. At
> the 1964 World Fair in New York GM put turbine versions of their
> production models on display as a promotion, then farmed them out across
> the country in a beta test. Talk about bad timing, having poor
> acceleration they couldn't compare with the muscle cars popular at the
> time so they flopped. Nothing much has been said since so many don't know
> about this but I was there, lucky me.
Height of the muscle car was the end of 1960s. 1963's turbine car
had a purpose and achieved it. I am sure now, they might do a better
engine, but then what is burned might not be safe coming out the pipe.
In beta testing, yes a few got the Chrysler model, and ok slow take off
but they also reported the benfits. Toyota's test no gas vehicles
here are still owned by the people who wanted them. Of course that
depends on whom drives them...the rocket driver or someone normal.
> I know about Brasilian cars running on ethanol since sugar is so
> plentiful but sugar itself? Strange, small steam locomotives have been
> hauling cane to Cuban mills for over a hundred years but they burn cane
> after the sugar is extracted but not sugar, that would make quite a mess
> and how that mass of carbon left behind in the boiler could be removed I
> haven't a clue.
The harvest of sugar, starts with cutting it, and the stalks if not
careful can cut you. Dangerous and protective clothing needed. The
stalks are also burned to help with the process. I can see why the
locomotives in Cuba burned the stalks...saves just torching them
in the fields to make room for new growth.
No idea what mess is left in the Loco's boiler...never burned stalks.
Interesting too..if they sell the stalks...you can put them thru the
grinder for a rather nice drink that the folks like there.
> 73 de Warren
>
> Message timed by NIST: 14:30 on 2011-Dec-05 GMT
>
> [End of Message #57647 from KB2VXA]
One thing I did in Detroit, was in the lean days, help with inventory
to access what we really had. Interesting parts listing of some
really nice parts going way back, including the turbine. Then came
what cars we had, unsold. From a car we still owned in storage, in
an old building locked for many years...to hub caps and other things.
Oh well ... suggest you all go to the MDI site ...hmmm ...yeah suggested
that before. Forumla One engineering, is also in their success
column as is perhaps terminology you might have problems with that
are not BBS packetland approved....but then "who cares" .
73 Pete VE3WBZ
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