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VE3WBZ > AUTO 06.12.11 01:03l 111 Lines 4248 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
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Subj: RE:Ian G0TEZ 's Tat-ta and etc
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From: VE3WBZ@VE3LSR.#SCON.ON.CAN.NOAM
To : AUTO@WW
TO: AUTO @WW
FR: VE3WBZ
DT: Monday, December 5th.,2011 @ 1249hrs EST
<< Quoting G0TEZ to AUTO @WW >>
> From : G0TEZ To : AUTO @WW
> Type/Status : B$ Date/Time : 05-Dec 10:35
> Bid : 4F0120G0TEZ Message # : 57642
> Title : RE:KB2VXA's RE:tata ta ...or?
>
> Just a couple of comments:
>
> 1st steam car UK,1808 Richard trevithisck.
Hello Ian, and other auto buffs ... I thought the first recorded
mention of a machine that could be called a vehicle was the one
in France in an earlier period. A three wheeled contrapon?
> The Ford Ka is a small but not miniature, 2 Litre petrol car in
> common use in the UK for, at least 10 years.
OK .. I saw it first in 1999 in BRASIL, and FORD told me then
well you know the story. So they also had it running in UK.
I liked it.
> As for cmpressed air used to drive vehicles, it is only just
> another form of reservoir, storing power from an electrical (?)
> input.
Yeah .. compressors run by DC-AC-Armstrong ..whatever... I like
what I was seeing on the MDI site. They had some really interesting
protypes and a history of development. I also liked their connection
with Auto racing.
> Interesting the bit about Brazil. I have heard for 30 - 40 years
> about the way the Brazilians used cane sugar to produce alcohol.
They have gas, and then there is the mix, and then alternatives
so the station does have an interesting smell. Also attedents
fill the cars. No messing about.
> I suppose nowadays we would say 'bio ethanol' but it was the
> commonest car fuel because they had very little in the way of
> petroleum reserves.
Petrobras is a big producer. They have offshore, and as well other
deals with other countrys in South America, that none outside SA
have.
> It was funny to hear that the had people turning up at the pumps
> who didn't have cars so they added something nasty to the alcohol,
> a bit like the flavouring of methylated spirits, to stop them
> drinking it.
Yeah, the biggest problem is youth getting really plastered, and
it seems as with Pinga, they get the 100 proof and go overbaord
entering up in a coma in hospital. Too many storys like this.
> All part of being 'green' now but the Brazilians did it to save
> money long before anyone else tried it.
There is something in them that makes this happen. When Brasil had
a chance and still does and can...make Nuclear plants for power and
weapons, they turned the idea down. Quite an interesting situation
of being the only country in the world to do this, and the documentation
is there leading to the decsion.
> A little known variation on this came from WWII and afterward.
> In the UK hundreds of acres were under cultivation,near me, for
> sugar beet. Some wemt to be used as household sugar, no different
> taste to cane sugar but, from various sources I heard that some was
> distilled into alcohol to be added to petrol. What %tage, I never
> knew and it is never admitted to this day.
Thats interesting. Reminds me of oil from Peat.
> It is interesting how fast our government jumped on the men who were
> collecting used chip oil, filtering it, and using caustic soda to
> remove sapons, then putting it in the tanks of their Range Rovers.
> If they had just carried on quietly doing it, no one would have said
> anything but they told people and then a small firm started producing
> and selling it. It wasn't long before the govt slapped a tax on it.
Yep ...anything the Government doesn't have it's paw on to control
etc...or it is in competition with supporters of the party running
the government...oh yeah. Same happened here, as we never hear
anymore of the fat from the chip truck or restaurant running anyone's
car.
> Back to the pumps chaps...unless you want to just brag about being
> 'green'.
>
> 73 - Ian, G0TEZ @ GB7CIP
>
> Message timed: 10:18 on 2011-Dec-05 GMT
> Message sent using WinPack-Telnet V6.80
>
> [End of Message #57642 from G0TEZ]
Oh yeah pump prices were CAN$ 1.14:6 /litre regular.
GREEN ... well thankfully we have "only" one greenie in office
and the rest are not exactly fine examples of Greenie-Power.
73 Peter VE3WBZ
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