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Hi Pete and all,

"You don't know where I heard what?"
I don't know where you heard "cell" substituted for "tank". There are 
living cells, voltiac cells and then a variation was invented, the fuel 
cell that produces electricity directly from fuel. Until it appeared on 
packet recently I've never heard of a fuel tank referred to as a fuel 
cell, somebody's monkeying around with the English language again.

I know you have already stated the Tata Mini Cat has an onboard 
compressor but questions still flew. The BBS being an open forum not 
everything is directed to you personally but in any case they seem to 
have it straight now at the tail end of the subject.

Yes, electric vehicles have been around a long time and batteries have 
always been a problem. Edison outfitted a Ford Model T flatbed truck but 
due to the usual pitfalls of lead-acid batteries it was an instant 
failure. That was one of several failed experiments and they say Edison 
was a genius, not really.

You say in effect there is no way to become energy independent but there 
is, solar electricity, wind power and solar heating have already 
accomplished the fact. Trouble is only the rich can achieve that goal, 
installation and maintanence is beyond the means of the average person. 
You're one of those who use a practical approach, conservation. Funny how 
that was rule number one in my family... TURN OUT THAT LIGHT! Ah, kids 
have other things on their minds but you have to teach them young or 
they'll be wasteful all their lives and complain "it costs too much, boo 
hoo."

You mentioned turbine powered cars, I don't know about clutches burning 
out but they went over like a lead balloon for another reason. Crysler 
produced a trail version, there still are a couple around, very rare. At 
the 1964 World Fair in New York GM put turbine versions of their 
production models on display as a promotion, then farmed them out across 
the country in a beta test. Talk about bad timing, having poor 
acceleration they couldn't compare with the muscle cars popular at the 
time so they flopped. Nothing much has been said since so many don't know 
about this but I was there, lucky me.

I know about Brasilian cars running on ethanol since sugar is so 
plentiful but sugar itself? Strange, small steam locomotives have been 
hauling cane to Cuban mills for over a hundred years but they burn cane 
after the sugar is extracted but not sugar, that would make quite a mess 
and how that mass of carbon left behind in the boiler could be removed I 
haven't a clue.

73 de Warren

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Message timed by NIST: 14:30 on 2011-Dec-05 GMT



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