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To : AUTO@WW
TO: AUTO @WW
FR: VE3WBZ
DT: Sunday, December 4th.,2011 @ 1236hrs EST
Hello Warren and others following along....
<< Quoting KB2VXA to AUTO @WW >>
> From : KB2VXA To : AUTO @WW
> Type/Status : B$ Date/Time : 03-Dec 16:27
> Bid : 10284_VK6ZRT Message # : 57500
> Title : Re: VE3WBZ > Ta-ta Tata
>
> A fuel cell that holds compressed air? As I remember a fuel cell produces
> electricity from hydrogen and oxygen. I don't know where you heard that
> one but whomever is screwing around with the English language better get
> one thing straight, STOP!
"Fuel Cell" as in whatever the material-type container on or in a
vehicle which contains the fuel to propel the vehicle, via whatever
type of engine, foraward or backwards, "X" number of Kilometres
until empty, and the vehicle stops due to no more fuel in the
"fuel cell" or "tank<s>" onboard.
You don't know where I heard what?
> Just to set the record straight, I did a little more homework and found
> the Tata Mini Cat has an onboard compressor.
Setting the record straight? "huh"? I have already stated the TATA
Motors material and their connection to MDI Engineering, which is the
source. What is there to set straight?
Already stated that there is a onboard compressor, to fill the tank.
> Now we're getting around to
> electric cars, just a slower rate of charge but still you fill them up
> with an outlet in the garage. In any case if we're going to stick with
> the coal by wire scheme we'll have to start thinking energy efficiency.
Electric vehicles have been with us, many many years, and the biggest
problem was always the batterys needed.
Outlet in the gargage or a filling station ...fast charge for the electric
car, or pull out the dead cell and get a new one...even faster.
> Every time you store and convert it there are tremendous losses, that is
> the lion's share doesn't go where you want it to. OK, so you only pay the
> hydro bill for the few minutes it takes to fill the tank but a KW/hr is
> still a KW/hr and still energy is lost, you never get something for
> nothing.
Whatever you do about the home, you are going to use exturnal energy,
unless mannual labour which many don't do. Some far this year my
energy has been FREE to heat the home. Fireplace.
Before I got my "Piggy Tank" I used the mannual pump of air to
clear the water pipes, and then force thru the anti-freeze for winter
layup. Now at the gas <petrol> filling stations they ask for
$ .25 cents for use of the air hose. I can still get FREE air
put into my "piggy Tank".
Something for nothing ....
> Think of it this way, people with wells must conserve water or
> their electricity bills go sky high.
My home was built before hydro came here. I can if I look find the
original wiring. The well also is nearby, and there is a pump.
This vein of topic seems to be drifting to Hydro and being dependent
on it, and everyone I know has higher bills then I...cuz they have
their hot water heater on 24/7 .... I don't. I have access to
the switchboard and turn off items not in use or needed.
> Actually the steam locomotive came way before the steam powered car
> (;->) but it can go through deeper water.
Actually before the locomotive, and there are enough demonstrations
out there, I believe the earliest is a French model. Before
tracks, the early model were on wheels and roadways that could hold
them.
> Yup, early automobiles
> were funny contraptions (some still are) and early motor vehicle
> laws were even funnier. Then there was Bob's steam engine but he
> fired it with methanol so it didn't deplete the supply of white
> lightning he made out back. If he had any sense he would stop
> playing with toys and burn ethanol in his car.
> It has SO many advantages, free fuel as long as the revenuers don't
> catch you, you can drink it and a blue kangaroo will lead you home
> if you don't pass out first.
My first job in a motor works and I saw the turbine engine for
a car. The only problem with them was the clutch plates burning
out at hi revs. Too bad, but the model was a toy they played
with.
In UK, it was electric vehicles but then I have already mentioned
the pityfall ...that nowadays has been overcome with research and
trail and failure to get forward.
In BRASIL, well cars there running on sugar was a bit much and
I had no tools to take apart carburetors and engines to look at
the results. All I remember was the smell of burning sugar
and the stuff under the car..a blog of goo.
>>"...but then too as Warren says....it they
>>be approved for driving in those countrys?"
>
> I doubt that even if the vehicle is approved drink driving never
> will be.
> Then you never told us how they do it in Brasil...
I saw a FORD concept car in BRASIL, and liked it. The name was
the "KA" ...but Ford told me they knew nothing of it, until I sent
them a picture and requested information ...then I got a new story
it was a "concept" car sent for testing in BRASIL. They could of
given me one to test in CANADA in the cold.... The "KA" was peppy
and nice...but never have seen it up here.
I really don't know if they have to have cars approved to drive in
Brasil. Never asked. As for drunk driving, well they have their
share and ...yes way too many. Driving down there is a REAL challenge.
Of all the laws they have down there about driving, I think
we are in front with the drunk driving laws. My opinion, but
nightly news there, seems to always have some video of someone
drunk driving, and well ...
> 73 de Warren
>
> Station powered by JCP&L atomic energy, operator powered by natural gas.
Se Warren .... you have natural gas .... would you hook up
to a new generation auto I am planning....runs on humans.
> Message timed by NIST: 16:19 on 2011-Dec-03 GMT
>
> [End of Message #57500 from KB2VXA]
I hope you all get to the MDI website for a look at these folks.
73 Pete VE3WBZ
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