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KB2VXA > FUEL     06.02.11 17:33l 41 Lines 1932 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
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Hi Paul and all,

Actually you replied to my bull, I don't know how Bob's callsign got 
dragged into it. (;->) Anyway, I was just doing my usual thing when he 
comes out with the unexplainable. The whole thing is there is that 
missing 25% energy he cannot or will not explain, it comes from the power 
grid but he'll never admit that Albany isn't self sufficient and no city 
is. That's what the power grid is for, a bit of "creative accounting" 
when it comes to electricity, moving it around to where and when it's 
needed like the proverb "no man is an island".

I'm just a bit sceptical when it comes to heat pumps, they work but what 
about energy efficiency? They're just big air conditioners that provide 
cooling in summer and on reverse cycle provide heat in winter, pumping 
heat in either direction takes a large ammount of electricity any way you 
look at it. For what it's worth, I've seen heat pumps installed in 
housing developments only those use the Earth as a heat sink. It seems 
logical when you go down deep enough since the crust is a natural 
insulator, heat up a pocket in summer and draw it out in winter, a heat 
resivoir. Still I wonder about efficiency and what the electric bills are 
like, could be the reason why they're not so popular is they're cost 
prohibitive.

Speaking of steam coming out of the outside boxes, I remember a huge 
evaporative cooler on the roof of a supermarket when I was young. While 
my parents were shopping I sat in the car watching this thing, much of 
the time it was just water pouring over wooden slats on one side of a 
huge metal box. Once in a while the fan would kick in and a cloud of 
steam would pour out of it for a minute or so just like the heat pump you 
mentioned.

73 de Warren

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Message timed by NIST: 10:01 on 2011-Feb-06 GMT



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