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KB2VXA > FUEL     16.01.10 17:03l 58 Lines 2787 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
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Hi Barry and all,

Just to get it out of the way first, since Bob and I use the same BBS and 
check it daily we tend to bat it back and forth especially when we're on 
at the same time. (;->)

So it would seem the UK trials center around fuel cells which in this 
application are problematical. Well no wonder, the power demand is 
enormous compared to their "normal" usage, most famously in space. It 
makes me wonder why not plain old electric busses if they don't want to 
lay tracks for trams and generate power at the oil refineries using all 
that gas they produce. We do it here and probably other countries as 
well, cogeneration reduces operating costs and they sell the excess power 
too.

Ten times the number of petrol tankers in hydrogen on the roads isn't 
hard to imagine as there aren't that many petrol tankers to begin with. 
Besides, liquified gasses are shipped all the time, perhaps you don't 
recognize the bottles when you see them and one thing I'm sure of, the 
average person wouldn't recognize a nuclear flask if it fell on him. 
Seriously, people are all scared over nothing simply because of 
sensationalist journalism in the press, one crashed and burning petrol 
tanker is all it takes but what they don't tell you is it's only one out 
of many thousands that made it safely and one out of hundreds that 
crashed and ammounted to nothing more than some wrinkled metal.

Yeah, the CNG people "need" to get their investment back quickly. Where 
have I heard THAT one before? Sounds like a loud chorus of many voices to 
me, they all want to turn a quick and greedy buck and to hell with the 
future. Remember the tortoise and the hare? 'Nuff said.

What do you mean "the way out stuff doesn't get published here"? If it 
didn't I wouldn't get such a laugh out of The Australian and a few others 
but then the letters to the editor tell another story. When it comes to 
people like Al Hore and Penny Always Wong you guys aren't fooled one bit 
and that's where the chuckles come from, New Zealanders may do strange 
things with sheep but greenies and their political backers do even 
stranger things with the wool.

Hey, if you have a tight supply of oil maybe we can give you some of our 
surplus. We're swimming in the stuff and closed several refineries but 
funny how the price of fuel just keeps going up. A clouded issue you bet, 
must be a cloud of CO2 or maybe that "transparency" Obama keeps yapping 
about but so far I've seen neither... POP.

I leave you with this to ponder, was that the sound of a bubble bursting 
or me pulling my tongue out of my cheek?

73 de Warren

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Message timed by NIST: 14:08 on 2010-Jan-16 GMT



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