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GM7HUD > CARS 13.07.08 12:20l 48 Lines 2582 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
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Subj: Re: Gas producers
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M1BYT wrote:-
> The car makers only work with well established, tried and tested technology.
Some car makers. There again if they come up with a design that fails
quickly you'd expect it to be fixed under warranty. Cars that dont go wrong
have better resale prices so it's self evident that anything new will be
productionised to make sure the makers will make a profit.
> I now looking at (maybe) an LPG conversion. Why don't the maufacturers offer
> this as a standard option?
There are many cars that come with factory fitted LPG options. But there is
a chicken and egg problem. LPG is not ubiquitous although in the last 8
years the number of garages selling it in my town has risen by a factor of
3. People dont want it because they worry about availability, they worry
the LPG tank will use valuable space and lower the resale value and they
dont trust the buffoons who run this country not to suddently tax LPG the
same as petrol. Why pay more for a car that uses cheap fuel if you cant get
cheap fuel everywhere and it might suddenly not be cheap.
The idea of a 6 stroke engine seems intriguing. Using a water injection
after the exhaust stroke to get another power stroke out of the waste heat
in the engine. But I'm sure it'll turn out to give lumpy power.
Looking at advances on Audi's diesel engines is impressive. The mpg goes
up, they get huge amounts of power and torque and the emissions are down.
The CO emissions are amazingly low for such high performance engines.
Sufficient that my fellow software engineers suspect the engine management
system recognises when it is being driven under "test" conditions and
derates itself! When you clog it the EMS restore full-on dirty performance.
Back to Brown's gas. It's some years since I studied chemistry. WHat I've
not be able to find out is why the charlatans believe they are producing
mono-atomic hydrogen and oxygen. The gases are going to immediately
recombine unless there is some medium to contain them in that state.
As to hydrogen injection improving the mpg. It may well do. It may help
improve the combustion of the petrol-air mix. What would be useful to see
and I haven't found any figures, is how much better a normal unchanged
petrol engine runs when a small volume of H2 and O2 is injected from bottle
supplies. That would show the improvement that the gas addition makes. Then
contrast that with gas injection from a electrolysis cell. The improvement
in mpg should be less that bottled gas as you need some energy to
electrolyse the water. Those figures would be useful.
73 de Andy GM7HUD
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