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Some do, Harry. The Ford Falcon and the Holden both offer LPG versions of
their  6 cyl. sedans. Some years ago I bought an ED Falcon with LPG
installed by Ford locally. They made such a lousy job of it that with this
model I have now I went to a tried and trusted local installer to my
complete satisfaction. However now you can buy an LPG dedicated Ford, and
also, I believe, an LPG version of the Holden, offered as an option.. Of
course this is in Australia.

Re your other remarks about  "plates clogging with bubbles", what's new?
That is called "polarization" and we learnt about that in high school
science in 1936 when we made voltaic cells as a science experiment.
Vheers,
Bob VK6BE.. 

> 
> For the most part I agree, even a few trying to make a fast buck out of it -
> but I doubt you have probed the subject very deeply. I have perhaps gone
> beyond that level and found lots of effort being put into improving the gas
> production technique - far beyond what can be achieved with just plates wired
> to a 12v supply. This suffers from the gas bubbles clogging the plates and
> limiting gas production. All of this design and test effort is made available
> for free. Are these people fooling themselves? It seems odd that some fairly
> clever people should put such time and effort into something and not get some
> return from from it. The return is obviously not from selling their work, as
> the details are given away freely.    
>  
>> If it worked it would be fitted to your car by the maker. Why? Well it
>> would enable them to reduce emissions, you'd pay less tax and would buy
>> their car.
> 
> The car makers only work with well established, tried and tested technology.
> Basic engine designs can last 20, 30, 40 years.
> 
> I now looking at (maybe) an LPG conversion. Why don't the maufacturers offer
> this as a standard option? It meets many of your criteria - lower emmisions,
> lower cost. It is a technology which has been around for at least thirty
> years, because I remember the early British Gas using LPG powered vans.   


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