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>
> I am looking into packet but I don't know where to start. Could you
> point me to some web sites where I could start learning about how to get
> my feet wet? The TAPR web site is confusing and I have already read the
> ARRL TIS info on digital. Specifically, I am interested in TNCs and old
> PCs (I am Mac-only at present,) their prices, and availability's.
> My eventual goal is to communicate with the International Space Station,
> and with my father, KD7GNO, when I go off to college. I own an IC-2100,
> and have been loaned an HF rig by WA9OXY. Also, I am a student whose
> parents have just bought a house, so I don't have much cash left. So,
> any advice? Thank you in advance for your time.
>
> 73

=============
Great Packet Tutorial by Larry Kenney, WB9LOZ at URL:
http://www.choisser.com/packet/

More Packet info at URL:
http://ac6v.com/pagew.html#D

Good Luck

--
73 From Rod In Oceanside, CA
Amateur Radio & DX Reference Guide
Featuring 100+ Pages, 750 Indexed Topics & 6000 Links
http://ac6v.com/
Over 830,000 Hits On The Counter

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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:04:03 -0700
From: "Dana H. Myers" <dana@source.net>
Subject: New to packet- need advice

"Steve Sampson (K5OKC)" wrote:
> 
> An 8088 or a C-64 will work too, Gosh, even a "terminal" like the
> ADM-3 should still be available at swap meets.
> 
> I'm kidding.  A 486 is probably all you will find anymore that still
> works, and has the speed and memory to run windows 95/98, and
> the BIOS can handle modern interface cards without randomly
> locking up or getting a blue screen of death (BSOD).

I find it amazingly ironic that you write the above paragraph and
then go on to write:

> There was nothing wrong with the advice, and I don't know why
> you feel the need to describe it as overkill, other than just to
> show us your greater knowledge on the subject, and how stupid
> everyone else is.

.. this one.

Perhaps I should explain it simply to you, Steve, in short words ;-)  This
person
is looking for a terminal for a KPC-3.  They're not likely to need to run
Win9X
or plug in "modern interface cards".

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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:37:01 -0400
From: Ralph Mowery <rmowery@dialpoint.net>
Subject: New to packet- need advice

I have used an old PC clone of the origional msdos pc. An 8088 computer
with 640 K of memory and a 10 meg hard drive.  Anything that you can run
a simple terminal program on will work.  Might not do much of the fancey
stuff, but will work fine for the text.  

I would have thought by now the packet stuff would have gone by the
wayside.  Unless chasing DX and using the DX cluster I jsut can't see
very much use for it now with all the other modes out.  Seems too slow
to me.  A few years back a friend and I were talking on 2 meter ssb
about 150 miles apart.  Decided to see how we could work packet via the
digipeaters.  Seemed to take about 5 minutes or more to get the messages
one way.  Probably not too bad, but not very good for real time
communications.


"Dana H. Myers K6JQ" wrote:
> 
> TomR@astro.net wrote:
> 
> >    Well the old Kantronics KPC-3's work fine but the new pluses are a
> > bit better. For packet any old 486 or low grade pentium will work just
> > fine for packet.
> 
> Heavens, if all you need is a terminal for a KPC-3, even an old 386 box is
likely
> to do the trick.  Older machines are suitable, too, but the software support
is likely
> to be poor.
> 
> Dana  K6JQ
> dana@source.net

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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:34:33 -0400
From: albert giandomenico <giandome@seas.upenn.edu>
Subject: Packet Sound Card Software

Does anyone know of a site to download software to use a Pentium and
sound card as a packet TNC.

I would like to try HF Packet and I am already setup for PSK31 with
cables and PTT.

Thanks,

N3OJV, AL

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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 01:01:40 GMT
From: marsgal42@hotmail.com
Subject: Packet Sound Card Software

In article <39E37D59.85016796@seas.upenn.edu>,
  albert giandomenico <giandome@seas.upenn.edu> wrote:
> Does anyone know of a site to download software to use a Pentium and
> sound card as a packet TNC.
>
> I would like to try HF Packet and I am already setup for PSK31 with
> cables and PTT.

For which operating system?

Laura Halliday VE7LDH     "Que les nuages soient notre
Grid: CN89mg               pied a terre..." - Hospital/Shafte


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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:28:03 -0500
From: David <kb9lpk@telocity.com>
Subject: SOUNDCARD SAVES PACKET HAM RADIO?

9600 baud true FM radio

Remember that the faster the packet with less retries increases
bandwidth potential with less packet clashing. So most true FM rigs ie;
allmodes,does not cut it unless the linearity of receiver IF having a min of
11khz this is needed for efficient RX of 9600 baud packets TXD needs to be
shorter as well like about 70ms or so. Just a thought remember its FSK not
AFSK!

Yes the Tekk Radios and modified Motorola Mitreks and Micors seem to 
work very well on our 9.6kbs LANS in Chicago land area.

horseshoestew@my-deja.com wrote:
> 
> In article <8q89jc$3ii$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
>   helpfull@my-deja.com wrote:
> > Programs like AGW Packet engine 2000.72 now allow your Pentuim +
> > soundcards to take the place of TWO 9600/1200 TNC's! Combined with a
> > easy to tap into "true FM" rig you can do 9600. 1200 baud requires no
> > modification.
> 
> Even with a true FM rig, you probably aren't going to be very happy
> with your results.  Think about getting a TEKK data radio.  They are
> cheap, and they work well.
> 
> Check out:
> 
> http://hamradio-online.com/1996/mar/9600.html
> http://www.jy.net/radio/tekk.html
> 
> > Can you say new and free (with what you may have) 9600 baud network?
> >
> > Could this revive Packet?
> 
> It helps.
> 
> > 9600 is fast enough for TCP/IP and is wireless. One can use your
> > regular Internet programs. FTP, HTTP, Newsgroups, Telnet ect.
> >
> > Can you think of some real benefits from this?
> 
> Yes, for portable applications(PDAs, laptops).
> 
> -------  Stewart - N0MHS  --------
> Wireless High-Speed Networking and
> Public Radio Services Information(MURS,FRS,GMRS,ARS,CB):
> http://www.pubcel.com
> 
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> Before you buy.

-- 
                                                 '73 de David--kb9lpk <><

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