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Date: Sat, 23 Sep 00 19:46:14 MET
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From: pa2aga@pe1mvx.ampr.org
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> islands.
Um ... you miss the entire point. The emergency creates the islands.
Ham radio bridges them back together. That's the whole point.
Stop thinking "bypass ham radio over the internet" and start thinking
"bypass broken internet access over ham radio."
> To rely on the Internet completely is just as dumb,
But this is EXACTLY what the Land Line Lids have forced on the US
ham radio networks. They're dead Jim.
> BUT, as you so
> eloquently put it, sometimes we just can't compete with the dollars of big
> business. And guess what, the dollars have created a really disaster
> resistant network that we might be able to use to assist us in doing our
> job.
Oh really?
Our job is to provide communications when those commercial
links ARE NOT WORKING.
Understand now?
> Remember that Arpanet/Internet was created as a disaster resistant
> network with a lot of our tax dollars. Their is more routing redundancy in
> the Internet then probably any other network, including the telephone
> network.
Baloney.
Go read the history of Arpanet.
Think just a little bit about the telephone network. Do some math.
--
... Hank
http://horedson.home.att.net
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Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 05:47:21 +0000
From: Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea@amsat.org>
Subject: Compression et all
Gee....thanks for my dose of 'Doom N Gloom' for the day.
Jim
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Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 05:26:19 +0000 (UTC)
From: Zsylvan+noZs_0009@Zcyberhighway.Znet.invalid (Sylvan Butler)
Subject: Compression et all
On Thu, 21 Sep 2000 16:07:51 -0700, Scott Moore <samiam@cisco.com> wrote:
>Since I lost track of ham, there have been at least two developments
>that should hit ham radio like a bombshell, namely digital voice
>compression (mpeg) and also digital video compression (mpeg again).
I like digital modes also. But...
One problem which explains why those have had little effect on ham radio.
Ham radio has not progressed in digital data transfer since about 1985. For
the most part in the U.S. we are stuck on 1200bits/sec. Yes, 1.2kBIT/sec.
Sometimes 2.4kbit/second. A few have 9.6kbit, and a very few have 56kbit.
You have almost no choice in 9.6kbit equipment, and for 56kbit or faster you
have to build your own, or buy commercial (i.e. not ham band) wireless gear.
So that's about it... Until high data rate digital transmission becomes the
norm, there is just no bandwidth for digital voice, much less digital video.
I'd actually like to work with some higher power 2.4ghz gear (bandwidth there
does 1mbit and more), but I'm not up to building my own from scratch (kit if
no exacting alignment I could do). So I pretty much have to stick with
commercial stuff, and maybe an amp. But I have nobody within range to
experiment with, and I can't leave it running unattended, because it has to
have automatic transmit power control... Oh well, maybe someday.
sdb
--
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***
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User should be sylvan and host is cyberhighway.net.
Do NOT send me unsolicited commercial e-mail (UCE)!
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Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 05:10:40 -0500
From: "Charles Brabham" <n5pvl@swb.net>
Subject: Compression et all
"Jim Jerzycke" <kq6ea@amsat.org> wrote in message
news:39CC43E9.AC80AC43@amsat.org...
> Gee....thanks for my dose of 'Doom N Gloom' for the day.
> Jim
>
If you only saw doom 'n gloom in my post, then I must assume that you have
allowed yourself to be hoodwinked into thinking that Hams should or could
"compete" in the baud rate race.
You should be thanking me for the dose of reality. It is only when you have
left your misconceptions behind that true progress becomes possible.
--
73 DE Charles Brabham, N5PVL
n5pvl@swbell.net
http://home.swbell.net/n5pvl/
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Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 00:01:51 GMT
From: amfone@concentric.net
Subject: F/S JPS NIR-10 DSP noise reduciton unit
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tim
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Before you buy.
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