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Ham-Digital Digest          Thu, 21 Sep 2000     Volume 2000 : Issue  258

Today's Topics:
                       Attn PSK31'ers (2 msgs)
                      FS: NORCAL 20M CW QRP RIG
            So no APRS for Linux with SOUNDCARD? (4 msgs)
                      TCP/IP Address 2 (11 msgs)
                    WinAPRS and Precision Mapping

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Date: 20 Sep 2000 18:09:56 GMT
From: n3dqu@aol.com (N3DQU)
Subject: Attn PSK31'ers

   If you're looking for some wallpaper to decorate the shack, check out the
Ø7Ø Club at < http://www.members.aol.com/n3dqu/podxs.htm >. It's a new award
program sponsored by the Penn-Ohio DX Society (PODXS) and it's free.

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Date: 21 Sep 2000 04:33:08 GMT
From: n3dqu@aol.com (N3DQU)
Subject: Attn PSK31'ers

oops, sorry...no www in that address...tnx. N3DQU.

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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 14:32:07 GMT
From: bcsw@home.com (Todd)
Subject: FS: NORCAL 20M CW QRP RIG

This was one of the first batch.  I built it with great care, and installed a 
10-turn POT and did the suggested mods, and tuned it to "prefection"
with an 0-scope.  Excellent QRP rig, worth its weight in gold.  Unfortunately,
I just don't have the time for radio these days, and I need to pass this
baby on to someone who can enjoy it and get some use out of it.
I am asking the same price I paid for it, because it's worth it, and it's
in good shape.  PRICE: $120.00 + $5.00 priority mail shipping.

Email me if interested.  Prepayment with M.O. or check preferred.

Todd Atkins, K4MSW
Baton Rouge, Louisiana

bcsw@home.com

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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 15:49:33 GMT
From: marsgal42@hotmail.com
Subject: So no APRS for Linux with SOUNDCARD?

In article <slrn8sflh7.qv.nomail@linux.pe1chl.ampr.org>,
  nomail@rob.knoware.nl (Rob Janssen) wrote:
> marsgal42@hotmail.com <marsgal42@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >In article <8q87fj$ll$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> >  helpfull@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> >> Am I wrong? Does a Linux APRS program not work with Soundcard
Linux.
>
> >Yes, you're wrong. Why wouldn't it work? How would it even
> >know what the hardware interface was, since AX.25 and the
> >drivers that go with it are a fully-integrated part of Linux?
>
> This can be the case when it does not use Kernel AX.25 but talks to a
TNC
> connected to a COM (tty) port.  Some programs do that.
> You can circumvent that when you have a suitable emulator for the TNC
type
> they expect, and interface that via a pty.

Yes, I suppose you could write such a program if you really
wanted to make life difficult for yourself. Do you have an
example of such a program?

Laura Halliday VE7LDH     "Que les nuages soient notre
Grid: CN89mg               pied a terre..." - Hospital/Shafte


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Date: 20 Sep 2000 09:51:55 -0700
From: Marco S Hyman <marc@snafu.org>
Subject: So no APRS for Linux with SOUNDCARD?

marsgal42@hotmail.com writes:

> Yes, I suppose you could write such a program if you really
> wanted to make life difficult for yourself. Do you have an
> example of such a program?

Difficult?  Not at all.   I've an X11 program (that I grew bored
with so never finished) that implements AX.25 in userland and uses
a TNC in KISS mode to get the bits in and out to the box.  Why?
Because the world isn't Linux and my *BSD boxen don't have kernel
mode AX.25.   APRS was the second thing I implemented (receive only)
as there are no states to worry about.   The first thing was the
equivalent of an AX.25 packet analyzer.

Someday I may finish it.  But if I do I'll use soundcard DSP instead
of a TNC as that way I'll be able to add psk31, too.

// marc

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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 18:08:24 GMT
From: marsgal42@hotmail.com
Subject: So no APRS for Linux with SOUNDCARD?

In article <x7n1h357mc.fsf@hana.snafu.org>,
  Marco S Hyman <marc@snafu.org> wrote:

> (snip...)
> Because the world isn't Linux and my *BSD boxen don't have kernel
> mode AX.25.   APRS was the second thing I implemented (receive only)
> as there are no states to worry about.   The first thing was the
> equivalent of an AX.25 packet analyzer.

Since this thread is about APRS under Linux, I wasn't worrying
about other OSs. In this thread the world *is* Linux, and any
Linux network program that didn't use kernel mode AX.25 would
have to have an awfully good reason not to.

I'm still waiting for an example...

Laura Halliday VE7LDH      "Que les nuages soient notre
Grid: CN89mg                pied a terre..." - Hospital/Shafte


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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:11:48 GMT
From: nomail@rob.knoware.nl (Rob Janssen)
Subject: So no APRS for Linux with SOUNDCARD?

marsgal42@hotmail.com <marsgal42@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Yes, I suppose you could write such a program if you really
>wanted to make life difficult for yourself. Do you have an
>example of such a program?

Most Windows programs are like that.  I use this method to run UIview in a
Windows95 VM under VMware.

It isn't really difficult.

Rob
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| Rob Janssen     pe1chl@amsat.org | WWW: http://www.knoware.nl/users/rob |
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 08:56:47 GMT
From: nomail@rob.knoware.nl (Rob Janssen)
Subject: TCP/IP Address 2

Steve Sampson <S.Sampson@radio-link.net> wrote:
>amprhosts is for Internet routing.  If you are against that, then what's
>wrong with using 10, 192.168, 45, or even 24 eh?

It also serves the unique addressing of amateur radio stations, and
division into subnets.  When you want to route along some nodes in the
amateur network (when available locally), you will probably need a 44
address, as all the routes in the routing tables are geared towards the
subnets on that network.
(i.e. in most nodes there will be no route for net 10 or it will point to a
default interface)

Rob
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