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Date: Sun, 10 Sep 00 22:35:07 MET
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From: pa2aga@pe1mvx.ampr.org
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for yr 2000
personally I've spent 600$ on slovinian 1.2mb/s data radio partial
kits. another member of NETCPA has spent about $800 on fully built
kits. a third member is buying the parts, building the partial kits,
and testing them. we should be looking for test paths in a month or
two (or three...).
with any luck by this time next year, we'll have megabit paths in
operation. end user paths are still a problem but there are some
solutions in the works.
> It's best to ignore them. This geekoid is a prime example of what Ham Radio
> could do with a lot less of.
you want less of people that do something constructive and that can play
nice with others?? boy, you do want ham radio to fail.
--- eric
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Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 10:21:47 -0700
From: Scott <news1@puma.teragen.com.au>
Subject: MURS potential
> How would the ham radio system access the internet, other than
> via modem?
How about a linux box plugged into an OC3?
> How would the hams get this higher speed access to the internet,
> so they could share it in the community?
Ill do it..
> However the ham radio system connects into the internet must
> supply this bandwidth. How could that be done? Who would pay?
Ill do it.. Ill pay.. I doubt that any rf network could easily flood the
bandwidth that I can get hold of. If anyone can build a high speed RF
network and supply me with something that can be plugged into a linux box
somehow, and make it legal, Ill get a large chunk of bandwidth to play
with..
scott..
kg6cln
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Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 19:09:17 +0100
From: "Mr Rat [2.30]" <2301@naespam.freenet.co.uk>
Subject: MURS potential
Eric S. Johansson <esj@harvee.billerica.ma.us> wrote in message
news:uk8cpwmxy.fsf@harvee.billerica.ma.us...
> we already have a model for paying for a shared resource. How do ham
> repeaters keep operating? By volunteer labor and by club members
> paying dues for the service. The same would be true for a community
> access Internet service. It would take volunteer effort as well as
> club members paying into the communal pot.
Interesting concept you guys are discussing [just came across it via
alt.radio.family]. A similar thing has been done on a housing estate
[project] in Manchester, England - where a bunch of residents all clubbed
together and set up a WAN in the whole block, which links to the Internet
via a high-speed leased line. It started off as a wired service [they ran
CAT5 all about the building !] but now they are experimenting with wireless
access to the units. Our Radiocommunications Agency in the UK permits
short-range wireless LANS so this can only operate within the block, but I
suppose its a start.
If any of you are interested I will try and find their website which
discusses the project...
Mr R@t
--
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Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 20:34:48 GMT
From: "Hank Oredson" <horedson@att.net>
Subject: MURS potential
"Scott" <news1@puma.teragen.com.au> wrote in message
news:39B9202B.B918B02E@puma.teragen.com.au...
> > How would the ham radio system access the internet, other than
> > via modem?
>
> How about a linux box plugged into an OC3?
That's the whole point: if some ham can connect into the internet,
so can everyone else around them. High speed links that hams
might provide could span perhaps a few miles to maybe 50 miles.
Useless.
Not to mention the fact that it requires a Sonet *modem* to
plug that OC3 into some computer.
> > How would the hams get this higher speed access to the internet,
> > so they could share it in the community?
>
> Ill do it..
Ok, good deal!
> > However the ham radio system connects into the internet must
> > supply this bandwidth. How could that be done? Who would pay?
>
> Ill do it.. Ill pay.. I doubt that any rf network could easily flood the
> bandwidth that I can get hold of. If anyone can build a high speed RF
> network and supply me with something that can be plugged into a linux box
> somehow, and make it legal, Ill get a large chunk of bandwidth to play
> with..
Cool!
How ya gonna get that RF network to me?
Is about 10,000 miles. Explain.
--
... Hank
http://horedson.home.att.net
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Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 15:24:17 -0700
From: Scott <news1@puma.teragen.com.au>
Subject: MURS potential
> Not to mention the fact that it requires a Sonet *modem* to
> plug that OC3 into some computer.
I can get an OC3 to the linux box - dont worry your pretty little head about
how.. you just worry about how you are going to suck that much out of it and
put it on the airwaves, cos that is the bit that I dont know how to do, and
dont have the time to find out.. I was just pointing out that there is plenty
of bandwidth to be had if the hardware existed.
> Cool!
> How ya gonna get that RF network to me?
> Is about 10,000 miles. Explain.
I'll provide bandwidth - thats all.. If you want an RF network spanning
10Kmiles, thats your problem (or the problem of those who said they can do
it).. I havent the feintest idea how to do that..
But elaborating a little further, if someone does come up with an setup that
will work, Id even put in some work getting people to set up stations in my
area and proving the conept.. Get someone clueful enough design/make the gear
and Ill provide a place for it to run with enough Internet to soak your
keyboard..
scott..
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Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 18:51:54 -0700
From: Scott <news1@puma.teragen.com.au>
Subject: MURS potential
> Oh, now I understand.
> You know nothing at all about radio.
Oh, now I understand.
You have no interest in *doing* anything..
The offer is there for anyone who is serious, Im not hard to find.. Ive got
work to
get back to..
scott..
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Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 03:30:18 GMT
From: "Hank Oredson" <horedson@att.net>
Subject: MURS potential
"Scott" <news1@puma.teragen.com.au> wrote in message
news:39B997BA.E9B2EF83@puma.teragen.com.au...
> > Oh, now I understand.
> > You know nothing at all about radio.
>
> Oh, now I understand.
> You have no interest in *doing* anything..
> The offer is there for anyone who is serious, Im not hard to find.. Ive got
work to
> get back to..
Clueless idiot.
--
... Hank
http://horedson.home.att.net
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