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Date: Sat, 01 Jul 00 01:50:25 MET
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From: pa2aga@pe1mvx.ampr.org
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Radio relay is dead as an issue. Get over it.
> The US ARS will never redeem itself by whipping Joe Ham into a
> self-serving frenzy, chasing after the latest fad modes, greater
> throughput, and a cheap dodge to a commercial common carrier
> wide-band system.
Forget about what the other people are doing, it's a hobby, do what
thrills you, and quit jumping up and down waving your arms around.
> Unfortunately, the "Newington" ARRL leadership seems unable to manifest
> the kind of vision that was inherent in it's past namesake.
>
> 73,
> Clay N4AOX
It's more of a PAC today. Sort of modeled on the NRA.
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 23:33:43 -0700
From: Aaron Jones <>
Subject: Forget HF & CW - Think Digital
marsgal42@hotmail.com wrote:
>Personally, I think ham radio's preoccupation with narrowband
>modes is silly.
>Laura Halliday VE7LDH
>Grid: CN89mg
Is playing with narrow band modes as silly as collecting grids??
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Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 16:19:18 GMT
From: "Larry" <larrywj@home.com>
Subject: Forget HF & CW - Think Digital
horseshoestew@my-deja.com wrote in message <8iuf8d$35p$1@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>
>You don't get it, do you? All you have to do is connect to the dude
>with a DSL gateway down the street, and you can talk "all over the
>world" - even on 2 meters.
>
>Stewart - N0MHS
>--
You don't get it Stewart. Some people actually get a thrill out of working
DX on the HF bands. Of course they realize that they could call them on the
phone, or send them an e-mail, but that just isn't the same. No one is
forcing you to do it. If you aren't interested in HF, fine. Does that mean
no one else should be?
73,
Larry - WU8U
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Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 11:43:24 -0400
From: "Ed Hare, W1RFI" <w1rfi@arrl.net>
Subject: Forget HF & CW - Think Digital
<horseshoestew@my-deja.com> wrote:
>> If, as you proclaim, you are interested in UHF/digital, then there is
>> a license class (Technician) which gives complete access to UHF/digital
>> operations and has ZERO emphasis on CW or HF.
> But why then is it the LOWEST license class - when it actually offers
> all of privileges that anyone interested in modern communications
> techniques would need?
Presumably to make it as easy as possible to those who want to promote
high-speed digital operation. Can you explain to us why that has not been
enough?
73,
Ed Hare, W1RFI
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Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 17:00:25 GMT
From: horseshoestew@my-deja.com
Subject: Forget HF & CW - Think Digital
In article <_CL45.20$c5.41556@news.ntplx.net>,
"Ed Hare, W1RFI" <w1rfi@arrl.net> wrote:
> <horseshoestew@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> >> If, as you proclaim, you are interested in UHF/digital, then there
is
> >> a license class (Technician) which gives complete access to
UHF/digital
> >> operations and has ZERO emphasis on CW or HF.
>
> > But why then is it the LOWEST license class - when it actually
offers
> > all of privileges that anyone interested in modern communications
> > techniques would need?
>
> Presumably to make it as easy as possible to those who want to promote
> high-speed digital operation. Can you explain to us why that has not
been
> enough?
I like the idea of incentive licensing. I just think it should reflect
modern times, that's all.
> 73,
> Ed Hare, W1RFI
Stewart - N0MHS
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Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 14:01:40 -0400
From: "Ed Hare, W1RFI" <w1rfi@arrl.net>
Subject: Forget HF & CW - Think Digital
<horseshoestew@my-deja.com> wrote:
> > <<Phoey on the ARRL and TAPR, it is time to start making our own hi-
> speed
> > digital communications network by working at the grass-roots level.
> The
> > tools are there, all we have to do is start building...>>
> > Check the latest issue of QEX.
> I don't think they carry QEX at the local Barnes and Noble, but I'll
> check anyway. I went to the ARRL's QEX site, but they don't have an
> article index. What does the latest issue(May/June?) contain?
There is a searchable QST and QEX article index at:
http://www.arrl.org/members-only/qqnsearch.html
If memory serves, QST has featured a "What's In QEX This Month" blurb for a
while now.
When I use "DIGITAL" as the search word, I get 394 hits. 104 of them are
from QEX. I think that Ed may have been speaking generally, rather than
specifically about the May/June issue; the digital articles from that issue
are:
May 2000 QEX 13 A Low-Cost HF Channel Simulator for Digital Systems
Forrer, Johan, KC7WW
May 2000 QEX 4 Is Digital Voice Permissible under Part 97? (sidebar to
Practical HF Digital Voice) Rinaldo, Paul, W4RI
May 2000 QEX 3 Practical HF Digital Voice Talbot, Andy, G4JNT
May 2000 QEX 3 Practical HF Digital Voice Brain, Charles, G4GUO
I note that you are not an ARRL member and apparently don't subscribe to
QEX. On what basis are you able to "fooey" all the stuff you haven't seen?
I don't know how your grass-roots movement is coming along, but if you can
put together the documentation for a high-speed UHF digital system that hams
can duplicate, I bet the QEX editor would be interested. If it is
published, I could then ask that it be linked off the ARRL TIS page at:
http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/digital.html.
I am in the process of adding the HF digital voice article and the link that
you gave in an earlier post. Any and all suggestions for improvement for
that page are welcome.
73,
Ed Hare, W1RFI
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Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 17:56:01 -0500
From: "Steve Sampson" <ssampson@usa-site.net>
Subject: Forget HF & CW - Think Digital
<horseshoestew wrote
> I like the idea of incentive licensing. I just think it should reflect
> modern times, that's all.
>
> Stewart - N0MHS
This has to be the dumbest thread in this group in 15 years.
Go downtown, wave a $20 bill, and some woman will come
to your rescue. You need it.
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Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 23:37:54 GMT
From: horseshoestew@my-deja.com
Subject: Forget HF & CW - Think Digital
In article <FEN45.23$c5.43917@news.ntplx.net>,
"Ed Hare, W1RFI" <w1rfi@arrl.net> wrote:
> I don't know how your grass-roots movement is coming along, but if
you can
> put together the documentation for a high-speed UHF digital system
that hams
> can duplicate, I bet the QEX editor would be interested. If it is
> published, I could then ask that it be linked off the ARRL TIS page
at:
>
> http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/digital.html.
I think that is a good idea. Hmmm, maybe it is time I joined the ARRL.
> I am in the process of adding the HF digital voice article and the
link that
> you gave in an earlier post.
That would be great Ed.
> 73,
> Ed Hare, W1RFI
Stewart - N0MHS
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