| |
PA2AGA > HDDIG 01.07.00 14:58l 273 Lines 7616 Bytes #-9415 (0) @ EU
BID : HD_2000_173F
Read: GUEST
Subj: HamDigitalDigest 2000/173F
Path: DB0AAB<DB0SL<DB0RGB<DB0MRW<DB0ERF<DB0BRI<DB0SM<PI8DAZ<PI8GCB<PI8HGL
Sent: 000701/0141Z @:PI8HGL.#ZH1.NLD.EU #:57091 [Den Haag] FBB $:HD_2000_173F
From: PA2AGA@PI8HGL.#ZH1.NLD.EU
To : HDDIG@EU
Date: Sat, 01 Jul 00 01:50:15 MET
Message-Id: <hd_2000_173F>
From: pa2aga@pe1mvx.ampr.org
To: hd_broadcast@pa2aga.ampr.org
X-BBS-Msg-Type: B
> marsgal42@hotmail.com wrote:
> > While CW is indeed an on-off code, when people talk about
> > digital modes they don't generally mean CW.
>
> 111010111010001011101110000000101000101010000000
> 111010100010100011101110100010100011100010111000101110101
> --
> http://www.mindspring.com/~w6rca
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 16:49:05 GMT
From: K0HB <K0HB@arrl.org>
Subject: Forget HF & CW - Think Digital
K0HB said:
> > If your interests are in high speed data transfer, then Morse is
> > not for you.
Horseshoestew replied:
> EXACTLY my point - so why the over-emphasis on this dead mode.
You're the one who is making the emphasis, not me. If your bag is
UHF/VHF high speed data, then CW doesn't affect you one way or the
other.
Go away and have a nice life.
73, de Hans, K0HB
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:58:55 GMT
From: horseshoestew@my-deja.com
Subject: Forget HF & CW - Think Digital
In article <8itg1p$b3m$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
K0HB <K0HB@arrl.org> wrote:
>
> > > If your interests are in high speed data transfer, then Morse is
> > > not for you.
>
> > EXACTLY my point - so why the over-emphasis on this dead mode.
>
> You're the one who is making the emphasis, not me. If your bag is
> UHF/VHF high speed data, then CW doesn't affect you one way or the
> other.
Ah-ah-ah, but it DOES affect me in that an ARS license structure that
does not reflect modern-day reality, because it places too much
emphasis on HF/CW, rather than UHF/digital, depicts the ARS as a
backwards-thinking group of individuals, who are not interested in
modern communications methods, or in attracting young individuals to
the hobby.
> Go away and have a nice life.
When the license structure is fixed.
> 73, de Hans, K0HB
Stewart - N0MHS
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:14:59 GMT
From: Walter Gesundheit <w2dne@my-deja.com>
Subject: Forget HF & CW - Think Digital
In article <8itk4j$ehk$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
horseshoestew@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <8itg1p$b3m$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> K0HB <K0HB@arrl.org> wrote:
> >
> > > > If your interests are in high speed data transfer, then Morse is
> > > > not for you.
> >
> > > EXACTLY my point - so why the over-emphasis on this dead mode.
> >
> > You're the one who is making the emphasis, not me. If your bag is
> > UHF/VHF high speed data, then CW doesn't affect you one way or the
> > other.
>
> Ah-ah-ah, but it DOES affect me in that an ARS license structure that
> does not reflect modern-day reality, because it places too much
> emphasis on HF/CW, rather than UHF/digital, depicts the ARS as a
> backwards-thinking group of individuals, who are not interested in
> modern communications methods, or in attracting young individuals to
> the hobby.
Well, I gotta jump in on the side of Hansl on this one.
If, as you proclaim, you are interested in UHF/digital, then there is a
license class (Technician) which gives complete access to UHF/digital
operations and has ZERO emphasis on CW or HF. Your poking and
strirring is completely specious, and simply brands you as a Dump Huck
troller.
And that's the way it is!
Tweedle tweedle, dit dit.
Walter
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 19:10:17 GMT
From: Walter Gesundheit <w2dne@my-deja.com>
Subject: Forget HF & CW - Think Digital
In article <8itlia$fk3$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
horseshoestew@my-deja.com wrote:
> > Well, I gotta jump in on the side of Hansl on this one.
>
> I'll jump in with Gretal :)
>
> > If, as you proclaim, you are interested in UHF/digital, then there
> > is a license class (Technician) which gives complete access to
> > UHF/digital operations and has ZERO emphasis on CW or HF.
>
> But why then is it the LOWEST license class - when it actually offers
> all of privileges that anyone interested in modern communications
> techniques would need?
Well, I searched and I searched and I searched and nowhere in Part 97
does the FCC call Technician the LOWEST license class. It does not
in any sense emphasize CW or HF for UHF/digital operation. Hansl is
right.
And that's the way it is!
Walter
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:23:27 GMT
From: horseshoestew@my-deja.com
Subject: Forget HF & CW - Think Digital
In article <8itl2j$f61$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
Walter Gesundheit <w2dne@my-deja.com> wrote:
> In article <8itk4j$ehk$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> horseshoestew@my-deja.com wrote:
> > In article <8itg1p$b3m$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> > K0HB <K0HB@arrl.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > If your interests are in high speed data transfer, then Morse
is
> > > > > not for you.
> > >
> > > > EXACTLY my point - so why the over-emphasis on this dead mode.
> > >
> > > You're the one who is making the emphasis, not me. If your bag is
> > > UHF/VHF high speed data, then CW doesn't affect you one way or the
> > > other.
> >
> > Ah-ah-ah, but it DOES affect me in that an ARS license structure
that
> > does not reflect modern-day reality, because it places too much
> > emphasis on HF/CW, rather than UHF/digital, depicts the ARS as a
> > backwards-thinking group of individuals, who are not interested in
> > modern communications methods, or in attracting young individuals to
> > the hobby.
>
> Well, I gotta jump in on the side of Hansl on this one.
I'll jump in with Gretal :)
> If, as you proclaim, you are interested in UHF/digital, then there is
a
> license class (Technician) which gives complete access to UHF/digital
> operations and has ZERO emphasis on CW or HF.
But why then is it the LOWEST license class - when it actually offers
all of privileges that anyone interested in modern communications
techniques would need?
> Walter
Stewart - N0MHS
---------------
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Monitor/2254/radio.html
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 20:04:56 GMT
From: "D. Stussy" <kd6lvw@bde-arc.ampr.org>
Subject: Forget HF & CW - Think Digital
On Thu, 22 Jun 2000 horseshoestew@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <8itg1p$b3m$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, K0HB <K0HB@arrl.org> wrote:
> > > > If your interests are in high speed data transfer, then Morse is
> > > > not for you.
> >
> > > EXACTLY my point - so why the over-emphasis on this dead mode.
> >
> > You're the one who is making the emphasis, not me. If your bag is
> > UHF/VHF high speed data, then CW doesn't affect you one way or the
> > other.
>
> Ah-ah-ah, but it DOES affect me in that an ARS license structure that
> does not reflect modern-day reality, because it places too much
> emphasis on HF/CW, rather than UHF/digital, depicts the ARS as a
> backwards-thinking group of individuals, who are not interested in
> modern communications methods, or in attracting young individuals to
> the hobby.
I don't see that. The license structure has a CW test (for the higher
classes)
and it asks theory questions on digital (packet) too. What it comes down too
is that for the TOP license, one must show at least some familiarity, if not
proficiency, with all modes (even those one CHOOSES not to use), and that is
To be continued in digest: hd_2000_173G
Read previous mail | Read next mail
| |
