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ports.

I realized that you could operate RTTY, PACTOR etc on the HF port and that
others could link up with your BBS on the packet ports at the same time.

But I wasn't aware that you could have a QSO on HF PACTOR and one or more
Packet QSOs on the VHF ports at the same time!  Maybe I misunderstood what
you said.

I always thought that you could either have a HF PACTOR etc QSO using TERM 5
mode or PACKET QSOs on the PACKET Ports BUT NOT BOTH!

I wish SCS stuck with one interface.  Like the KAM -- I like the KAM's host
mode!

 I also don't like TERM 0 -- most dumb terminals will not work properly with
TERM 0 mode.   TERM 0 works okay in CMD mode but once you switch into a QSO
mode (e.g.PACTOR) overprinting occurs! -- a real pain.  You have to change
the dumb terminal parameters if you can.  If you do then you get double
spacing in CMD mode. Unfortunately some dumb terminals will not
automatically add a LF after receiving a CR from a modem -- so you always
get overprinting -- you better read fast !!

I don't think that Peter really knows how a normal dumb terminal works!  I
told him about it but I doubt he will make any changes to the firmware. Its
too bad that the PTC II did not follow the design of the KAM which provides
a lot of flexibility when setting up the terminal parameters (e.g. LFADD
etc)

When designing my own simple terminal program (using macros) for use with
PTC II, I also did not like the inconsistencies..  Sometimes you used Quit
to exit a menu to the main command prompt, sometimes you use PT.  A real
pain!  I am sure you have run into the same problem!

I look forward to your program.  It sounds like it will be the only
commercially available program for the PTC II that will support the PTC II's
weird WA8DED host mode for packet!

When will your program be available?

73's

Rob


"Rick Ruhl" <ricker@cssincorp.com> wrote in message
news:eaUVQhdN$GA.76@cpmsnbbsa05...
> Rob,
>
> The nice thing about WA8DED host mode on the SCS is that it allows a
Pactor
> channel too, so you'd be able to do Packet and Pactor at the same time.
>
> But WA8DED doesn't know the difference in radio ports. The way this is
> accomplished, is that the SCS appends a 1: or 2: to the first two bytes of
> the data packet, and you have to parse those, to tell it which window to
go
> to.  All WA8DED knows, is that a host channel got a packet, and it tells
> which channel it's on.
>
> And you have to leave WA8DED host mode to use the other modes i.e. Term 5
> (which is what XPWin uses).
>
> I've mentioned to Peter at SCS that it might be a good idea to allow the
> other modes work through the packet channel. For sure, it would allow
other
> modes than Pactor to allow simultaneous dual port session,  and not having
> to deal with two types of HOST interfaces.
>
> You're probably aware of the PTC-Term program we're working on. It will
> support WA8DED HOST in the configuration above, and all that remains
> outstanding for us to do, is to add the TERM 5 interface for the other HF
> modes.
>
>
> --
> Rick Ruhl
> President, Creative Services Software
> http://www.cssincorp.com
>
> Rob wrote in message ...
> >I am looking for a good packet terminal program for my SCS PTC II which
> >supports the WA8DED host mode.  The SCS PTC II has two packet ports - one
> >for 1200 baud and one for 9600 baud.  I would like it to run under
windows
> >98.
> >
> >Unfortunately most the programs for the SCS PTC just handle the HF modes
> not
> >Packet.
> >
> >Will WinPak work??  There is any consensus out there on what is the best
> >windows packet terminal program that supports WA8DED host mode  (and
> >multiple ports)??
> >
> >73's
> >Rob
> >
> >
>
>


>.

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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:17:46 +0100
From: Markus Lenggenhager <Markus.Lenggenhager@philips.com>
Subject: Best Windows Terminal Program for WA8DED TNCS

Try WinGT from http://www.wingt.de

73, Markus HB9BRJ
>.

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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:05:47 +0000
From: Roger Barker <roger@peaksys.co.uk>
Subject: Best Windows Terminal Program for WA8DED TNCS

In article <yYx_3.192953$5r2.445061@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>, Rob
<NoEmail@NoWay.com> writes
>I am looking for a good packet terminal program for my SCS PTC II which
>supports the WA8DED host mode.  The SCS PTC II has two packet ports - one
>for 1200 baud and one for 9600 baud.  I would like it to run under windows
>98.
>
>Unfortunately most the programs for the SCS PTC just handle the HF modes not
>Packet.
>
>Will WinPak work??  There is any consensus out there on what is the best
>windows packet terminal program that supports WA8DED host mode  (and
>multiple ports)??

WinPack supports WA8DED via its internal TF2.7b host mode and also via
the SV2AGW Packet Engine.

It all depends what you want to do on packet - If you want advanced mail
and bulletin handling features, then WinPack is obviously a better
choice for packet than the other programs discussed in this thread.

-- 
Roger Barker, G4IDE  roger@peaksys.co.uk
Boston, UK           http://www.packetradio.org.uk
>.

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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:10:34 -0000
From: "george" <car@ukgateway.net>
Subject: Digital Image Transmission

Hi, All!
Does anyone know of any detailed siteson image processing? I am also looking
at digital image transmission over noisy radio channels. I need a lot of
info on pre-processing (i.e. things like colour - space separation,
quantization, discrete cosine transforms) and transmission over noisy radio
channels (things like sequential edge addressing, inter-leaving, arranging
DC differently...). I have developed a C program that simulates this, but
need a lot of theoretical info. Any help greatly appreciated.
Thank you
George, Aerosmith Fun
"Don't tell me what do to-I'm having fun!"-Joe Perry





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Date: 23 Nov 1999 21:24:55 GMT
From: John Wiley <jw@physics.gmu.edu>
Subject: FCC reallocates Ham Band

Charles Brabham <n5pvl@texoma.net> wrote:

: John Wiley <jw@physics.gmu.edu> wrote in message
: news:8172qj$r7e@portal.gmu.edu...

:>
:> : By the way, what "new mode" were you referring to?  Using The telephone
:> : instead of Radio?
:>
:> : Call that "progress", do you?
:>
:> : Moron.
:>
:> As others have said in the recent past... Charles... Pot... Kettle...
:> Black...

: I see that you have no answer about the "new mode", or "progress" either.

: Figures.

: Don't worry about insulting me.. LandLine Lids have always been downright
: nasty when their destructive activities and moronic attitudes are pointed


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