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my understanding is that TCP/IP doesn't really work that efficiently either if
the
underlying protocol provides reliable connections, or if the channel drops
packets
do to random errors, and not due to congestion. Sometimes, it seems almost
like
we should be hotwiring TCP/IP all the way up at the socket level, and junking
all the attempts it makes to insure that the data goes through, and depend on
protocols designed for radio in the first place. Though this would be a huge
pain
to do, and it'd probably break lots of stuff. I think Linux 2.3 makes some
attempt
to detect what TCP/IP is doing at the higher levels and toss out some of the
junk
that isn't needed. Though I haven't tried this yet.
As an aside, I sort of like the TNOS user interface. Though I've never run
TNOS myself.
It takes a little bit of work to get a native FBB type program to talk to SMTP
email, though
it can be done. Though me, I sort of like the idea of having walls between
the protocol
side and the application side -- just for sort of aesthetic reasons. So, I
haven't run any
*nos variants for a few years here.
"Rob" <NoEmail@NoWay.com> wrote in message news:OIF_3.193083$5r2.444969@tor-
nn1.netcom.ca...
> What is the "better software" that has replaced JNOS / TNOS??
>
> I didn't think there was anything else out there for IP/TCP packet radio??
>
> 73's
> Rob
>
> "Charles Brabham" <n5pvl@texoma.net> wrote in message
> news:81ej9d01lto@enews4.newsguy.com...
> >
> > Rob <NoEmail@NoWay.com> wrote in message
> > news:rTx_3.192952$5r2.444817@tor-nn1.netcom.ca...
> >
> > > But my question still remains -- what do you think is better -- JNOS or
> > > TNOS?? Which has more features?? Which is more reliable?? etc
> >
> > Neither one is suitable for use by amateurs. You might as well go back and
> > use spark-gap equipment if NOStalgia is your interest.
> >
> > JNOS is historically the most bug-ridden, low-rent software ever used by
> > amateurs. TNOS is a takeoff on JNOS. You can pick your poison with
> complete
> > assurance that whichever one you go with, it will suck.
> >
> > There is a small group of Hams who take great pride in the fact that they
> > have managed to get one of these programs to actually run, but nobody
> takes
> > either one of them seriously anymore, as much better software has since
> come
> > along to replace them.
> >
> > --
> >
> > 73 DE Charles Brabham, N5PVL
> > N5PVL @ N5PVL.#NTX.TX.USA.NOAM
> > http://www.texoma.net/~n5pvl
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Date: 23 Nov 99 14:20:15 GMT
From: w2der@yahoo.COM (Dave Reamsnyder)
Subject: Paket 6.2
Hello all,
I guess I erred on Tony's address for his
upgrade of the Paket software..The address should be:
www.acay.com.au/~tonyl
__________________________________________________
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Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 18:27:25 -0500
From: "Rob" <NoEmail@NoWay.com>
Subject: Preferred Modem for FSK
I have a PCI 3000 and a PTC II. In my view, the PTC II decodes RTTY much
better than the PCI 3000.
(I also have a KAM for GTOR. The PCI 3000 is better than the KAM for RTTY.
But on AMTOR, the KAM seems to work better -- strange)
73's
Rob
"MIKEHAACK" <mikehaack@aol.com> wrote in message
news:19991121003744.08997.00000544@ng-bh1.aol.com...
>
> The PCI-3000 is an Analog Card. Circa 1990. Its Capable of RTTY, Amtor and
CW.
> And has seperate Filter chains for Mark and Space.
>
> In my own side by side comparisions with a P38 DSP modem ...on The Same
> signal. The PCI-3000 continued to provide Solid copy long after the DSP
modem
> was printing gibberish.
>
> Even HAL's staff confirmed what I already had myself observed. That at
least
> for this RTTY Dxer, I'll take the weak signal recieve capabilities of the
more
> accurate Hard filter.
>
> Mike WB9B
>
>
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 11:49:36 -0600
From: "Charles Brabham" <n5pvl@texoma.net>
Subject: radio noise
WEIRDO <007HEATH@email.msn.com> wrote in message
news:exQJx8cN$GA.235@cpmsnbbsa05...
> Are there any products that generate radio noise (interrupting all radio
> signals), much like 'white noise' with sound? Thanks.
Yes, they call it "Amateur tcpip".
Check the TAPR web site for more info.
--
73 DE Charles Brabham, N5PVL
N5PVL @ N5PVL.#NTX.TX.USA.NOAM
http://www.texoma.net/~n5pvl
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 12:17:47 -0600
From: W6RCecilA <Cecil.A.Moore@IEEE.org>
Subject: Software for SCS Pactor-II
Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 wrote:
> My theory is that Farallon is selling to boaters, and so have caused
> the US price to be jacked up for that market.
Maybe a group of hams could arrange a quantity discount?
--
73, Cecil, W6RCA http://www.mindspring.com/~w6rca
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:06:05 -0600
From: john63401@yahoo.com
Subject: TV antenna for apartment dweller?
I am not home much and watch little TV.
What is a good, compact antenna for receiving
signals of the air??
What abt one of those saucer shaped disks from
radio Shack that is use on RV's??
BTW.... hope no one minds me posting this here as
I am a general class ham. <G>
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 15:46:36 GMT
From: marsgal42@hotmail.com
Subject: Which Sound Card?
In article <81dluj$17md$8@arachne.labyrinth.net.au>,
Hamish Moffatt <hamish@rising.com.au> wrote:
> Get Windows versions of all of these -- then they don't care which
> sound card you have.
Yes. Any sound card supported by your operating system will
work fine with any application, as long as it can shovel data
into the computer fast enough (hence the "16 bit" part). I
bought the cheapest, nastiest SB16 clone I could find at the
computer store (for $CDN 19.00) and it works fine with Linux
and Windoze...
MS-DOS never supported sound cards, so applications have to
do it themselves. Hence the endless incompatibility problems,
which completely unnecessary.
--
Laura Halliday VA3LDH "Que les nuages soient notre pied
Grid: FN03gs a terre..." - Hospital/Shafte
Satellite: VA3SFL on AO-16, UO-22, KO-23, KO-25
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Before you buy.
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