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You basically wanted an exemption from broadcasting.  Broadcasting is
something the ARRL does every day.  The technology is over 70 years old.

> They are probably looking at the results of TAPR's "screw everyone else"
> tcpip promotion and what that has done to the Packet net in the US over the
> last decade, and deciding to take a "thanks but no thanks" position
> concerning more destructive "screw everyone else" proposals that sorry
> jerkoids such as Greg Jones and yourself appear to find so irresistible.

I don't know why you keep bringing up Greg Jones??  I'm not associated
with TAPR in any way.  Is this a Freudian thing?  I just don't understand
what TAPR has to do with anything I've said?

> > If the ARRL would get behind Spread Spectrum on 2 meters, or even TDMA
> > on 2 meters, instead of waiting for the Service to die, it would happen
> > almost overnight.  But they can't do that because they've invested too
> > much time and money in repeater coordination, and repeater book sales.
> 
> Yes, it's a shame how the ARRL tends to think in terms of what is best for
> the greater majority of Hams instead of catering to the petty demands of a
> few thoughtless jerks such as yourself, isn't it?

There's one rule of radio that you don't understand, and you think everyone
else is as selfish as you are.  That rule is, do not interfere with others,
and have sound engineering practices.  It's not about personalities, or
us versus them.  You're the only one I've ever heard speak about Hams as
selfish, and stealing from others.  I've never heard another Ham in this
group make a blanket statement about one group stealing something from
another group. It's always just been you.  Can you explain that?

> Take the case of TAPR's "screw everyone else" promotion of tcpip, as an
> example:
> 
> Rather than promoting tcpip by way of simply allowing it to "compete" with
> other protocols and (assuming it's alleged superiority) either become more
> popular or not as it's merit (or lack thereof) would naturally dictate, a
> vicious campaign aimed at undercutting the use of anything else other than
> tcpip was undertaken, completely ignoring the opinions and desires of the
> great majority of Packet users in the US.
> Rather than putting an effort into building a national tcpip Packet net and
> compete in a decent, intelligent manner, steps were taken to undermine and
> undercut the existing AX25 Packet network that 99% of the Packet ops in the
> US were using.

What did they do?  Break down your front door, take your BBS out and stick
a NOS in?  You don't make any sense...  How come the FBI records don't show
any break-in's and stealing of BBS, and swapping in NOS code?

> Rather than build something to demonstrate and promote tcpip, TAPR took to
> the policy of dedicating most of it's efforts into undermining and
> destroying the work of others.

You're the only one acusing people of being selfish, and stealing from others.

>  After observing the sorry results of tens years or more of TAPR's "screw
> everyone else" tcpip promotion, the ARRL has probably decided that they
> would like to avoid more of the mediocrity and turmoil that such vicious
> campaigns tend to generate.

Come on now,
you're using a SPAM generator here.  Real people don't talk like that.

Do something useful.  Measure your "noise floor" and tell us what it is.
I don't think you know what the hell a "noise floor" even refers to.
>.

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Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 06:33:29 -0600
From: Steve Sampson <ssampson@usa-site.net>
Subject: FCC reallocates Ham Band

Still choosing to be a hateful personality eh?  How can you justify
your desire to be a leader, when you resort to hate to justify
your point?

Steve

Charles Brabham wrote:
> 
> You are obviously a moron. Try unplugging your nose from Mr. Jones' butt for
> a few minutes sometime, and I'm sure you will find an entirely different
> perspective; Not quite so "stinky".
>.

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Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 07:28:46 -0600
From: Steve Sampson <ssampson@usa-site.net>
Subject: FCC reallocates Ham Band

Charles Brabham wrote:
> 
[snip drivel]

> Thoughts and Comments?

If one man can change Ham radio, do you think it would be
the TAPR President, or the ARRL President?

See how silly you sound?

Steve
>.

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Date: 1 Nov 1999 17:19:52 GMT
From: jeffreyh@Hawaii.Edu (Jeffrey Herman)
Subject: List of the rec.radio newsgroups

Archive-name: radio/personal-brief-introduction

In an effort help ensure a poster's article reaches the appropriate
audience, below is a list of the rec.radio newsgroups. In most cases,
a group's name will explain its purpose. Cross-posting should rarely
be necessary.

*rec.radio.broadcasting (devoted to the broadcast industry; moderated)*
rec.radio.cb
rec.radio.info (periodic informational bulletins; moderated)
rec.radio.scanner 
rec.radio.shortwave 
rec.radio.swap (for buying, selling, and trading; not a discussion group)

rec.radio.amateur.antenna
rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors (tube-type communications equipment)
rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc (packet, pactor and other digital modes)
rec.radio.amateur.dx (long-distance amateur communications)
rec.radio.amateur.equipment (questions, comments regarding commercially-
                            built amateur gear; not for buying/selling)
rec.radio.amateur.homebrew (devoted to home-building ham gear)
rec.radio.amateur.policy (issues include code, restructuring, local
                          restrictions in conflict with FCC R&R)
rec.radio.amateur.space (satellites, meteor scatter, EME)
rec.radio.amateur.misc (any topic not covered in the above groups)


(At least two other English language radio hierarchies exist, prefixed
with "uk" (United Kingdom), and "aus" (Australia), in place of "rec.")

Again, cross-posting should rarely be necessary. Many times, a long-


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