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Ham-Digital Digest Sat, 6 Nov 99 Volume 99 : Issue 283
Today's Topics:
6 meter packet
Digital Modes, What a mess (2 msgs)
FCC reallocates Ham Band (4 msgs)
Free, No Banner, 10MB homepage storage 96410
FS: MFJ 407C Deluxe Electronic Keyer
List of the rec.radio newsgroups
NET 44 - AMPRNET (was Help with RFC) (3 msgs)
Packet for Palm Pilot - TNC hardware?
School Club special offer
Split screen term program?
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Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 06:32:58 -0500
From: Evhen Tupis <evman@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: 6 meter packet
Hi Tom,
For intermittant operation, you will find a group of packet
experimenters on 53.530-MHz during meteor events. Activity isn't high
enough yet to say that it's in use 24/7 yet, but I'm sure it will head
that way eventually.
Check out: http://www.rochesterny.org/propnet
Ev, W2EV
tom wrote:
> Is there any active 6 meter packet? If so on what frequency?
> Tom VO1 TY
> emailtwarren@cableatlantic.nf.ca
>.
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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 15:55:32 -0500
From: Ralph Mowery <rmowery@dialpoint.net>
Subject: Digital Modes, What a mess
There are a lot of modes now. One good thing is that there are some
good sound card type programs out there. Just hook up to the speaker
and mic of the sound card and radio and load in the program and you are
in business. No need for a TNC or multimode converter box what ever
they are calling them now.
Gilbert Baron wrote:
>
> I was looking for TNCs at the hamfest recently. What I found is that all the
> manufactures have a proprietary mode. This is STUPID as now you can't talk
> to others. Just think if every broadcaster sent TV with a different system!
> I am glad I looked because I gave up on digital modes before I wasted my
> money. If the manufacturers would license their systems all would benefit.
> As it is, the common compatible modes are all you get and these modes STINK
> compared to current state of the art possibilities. Digital modes are going
> NOWHERE.
>
> --
> Gil Baron gbaron@home.com
> EFAX 419-793-4952
> "Hierro candente, batir de repente"
>.
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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 22:32:17 -0500
From: aa010@detroit.freenet.org (Chuck Reti)
Subject: Digital Modes, What a mess
In article <7vv828$obs$1@news.rchland.ibm.com>, "Gilbert Baron"
<xzs1947@us.ibm.com> wrote:
>I was looking for TNCs at the hamfest recently. What I found is that all the
>manufactures have a proprietary mode. This is STUPID as now you can't talk
>to others. Just think if every broadcaster sent TV with a different system!
>I am glad I looked because I gave up on digital modes before I wasted my
>money. If the manufacturers would license their systems all would benefit.
>As it is, the common compatible modes are all you get and these modes STINK
>compared to current state of the art possibilities. Digital modes are going
>NOWHERE.
>
>--
>Gil Baron gbaron@home.com
>EFAX 419-793-4952
>"Hierro candente, batir de repente"
>Just think if every broadcaster sent TV with a different system!
You haven't read anything about Digital TV broadcasting yet, have you?
As of now there are about 24 different variations of ways to encode
and transmit digital video. All coming to a TV station near you,
ready or not.
---
Chuck Reti WV8A Detroit,MI
wv8a@arrl.net
>.
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Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 12:14:10 -0600
From: Steve Sampson <ssampson@usa-site.net>
Subject: FCC reallocates Ham Band
Hank Oredson wrote:
>
> > If one man can change Ham radio, do you think it would be
> > the TAPR President, or the ARRL President?
>
> Certainly not either one, since neither seem to have any
> useful vision of what Ham radio might become.
Thanks for agreeing with me. There is absolutely no way
one man could make all the changes that Mr. Brabham accuses
the President of TAPR of.
The real reason things change, is because a mojority of the
users change. With people dying off now, who were born in
the 30's, that alone is the reason for major changes. When
the people born in the 40's die off, we will have every
Morse Code fanatic in the ARRL chain of command dead and in
their graves.
Thus we have another 10 years of this nonsense, if the service
survives.
Steve
>.
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Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 19:38:28 -0600
From: Steve Sampson <ssampson@usa-site.net>
Subject: FCC reallocates Ham Band
Charles Brabham wrote:
>
> Going by your track record here on this ng, I would hazard a guess that your
> TDMA proposal required large numbers of Hams be forced into doing things
> "your way" whether they wanted to or not. Thus the rejection.
I don't really understand your assumption? Why would "forced into doing
things"
be a part of a petition? The rules have a section in them that authorize
emissions. What any proposal would do, would be to expand the emissions
allowed, or remove a restriction that could benefit the petition.
There's a constant "their out to get me" theme to all your posts that is
completely unreasonable.
> You'll find the same "problem" with the SS proposal, for the same reason. I
> have heard concerns expressed by ARRL folks that SS, as it became more
> popular, could end up raising the "noise floor" so as to make those freqs
> almost unusable for any other purpose. Thus the quite understandable lack of
> enthusiasm.
Give me a break. How could the noise floor be raised where you live, or even
where I live? There is maybe 5000 Hams in Oklahoma City, maybe 10 of them
are on any band each night. OK, throw out my numbers, and insert yours,
and tell the group how those few Hams are going to raise your noise floor.
> I had no trouble whatsoever, by the way, with the ARRL in my desire to test
> HF multicast. My proposal was met with interest and enthusiasm.
To be continued in digest: hd_99_283B
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