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Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 05:44:18 -0700
From: raoul@olympus.net (Le Grande Raoul)
Subject: Remote dialup via ham 2m etc?
In article <7tkidc$19jh@enews3.newsguy.com>, "Charles Brabham"
<n5pvl@texoma.net> wrote:
> nobody <nospamjkb@vcnet.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:WZeL3.1045$QI5.48189@monger.newsread.com...
> > Hello,
> > Although I'm not a ham operator, I was wondering if the following was
> > practical.
>
> This list is for Amateur Radio operators who are interested in digital
> communications via Amateur Radio.
>
<snip>
>
> As a Ham, my advice is that you quit pestering Hams and look into the
> commercial equipment and services that do what you are wanting.
>
> You can't use Ham gear to do it anyway, and if you did, you would end up
> spending extra money for substandard performance, just for the privelege of
> operating illegally and getting your butt in a crack.
>
<snip>
>
> That would be a problem but not the only one, by any means.
>
> > All constructive advise would be deeply appreciated!
>
> Quit spamming this Ham Radio ng with non-ham bulldada.
My God, Charles, you are quite the pompous ass. Ever thought that this guy
was the type that is needed in the ham world? Someone who is curious on
how to do new things?
Naw, you wouldn't think of that.
Nevermind.
JB
--
"The Road To Hell is paved with unclaimed stuffed dogs.."
-Ernest Hemingway, "The Sun Also Rises"
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 16:36:53 +0100
From: "Greg Tuby" <nl1sol@yahoo.com>
Subject: Remote dialup via ham 2m etc?
nobody <nospamjkb@vcnet.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:WZeL3.1045$QI5.48189@monger.newsread.com...
> Hello,
> Although I'm not a ham operator, I was wondering if the following was
> practical. Could I use a portable or handheld computer, a modem, and a 2m
> radio (or maybe HF) to dial up a local ISP as opposed to using a cellular
> modem via either a repeater or some base station? Why would I do such a
> thing? I want to try to establish a real-time link for longer distances
or
> not exactly line of sight than what cell modems can do. Basically, we're
> talking out in the boonies (miles away).
>
> I realize that the bandwidth of the signal may present a problem in this
> scenario...
>
> All constructive advise would be deeply appreciated!
>
> Thanks in advance,
> John
>
I would have thought that giving a little push in the right direction might
actually help this guy go through the right channels for radio & data
experimentation.
For John's information, you can find more info (depending upon where you are
in the world) about obtaining an amateur license (easy for VHF
experimentation) behind one or more of the following links:
http://www.packetradio.com/ - A good digital comms over radio page
http://www.qsl.net/ukpg - more info as above.
http://www.fcc.gov/wtb/amateur/ - the FCC's page of Amateur radio info,
including how to obtain a license.
http://www.radio.gov.uk/ - The Radio Authority's version of above but for
the UK.
http://www.veron.nl/ - Veron, the Dutch Radio Authority, as above but with
English & Dutch Language.
http://www.eham.net/ - This has got a massive collection of links to other
ham page including categories such as digital comms.
Hope this helps.
Regards
Greg Tuby
PE2GRT / M1BMY
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Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 14:59:49 GMT
From: "nobody" <nospamjkb@vcnet.nospam.com>
Subject: Remote dialup via ham 2m etc?
Charles Brabham wrote in message <7tkidc$19jh@enews3.newsguy.com>...
>
>As a Ham, my advice is that you quit pestering Hams and look into the
>commercial equipment and services that do what you are wanting.
>
>You can't use Ham gear to do it anyway, and if you did, you would end up
>spending extra money for substandard performance, just for the privelege of
>operating illegally and getting your butt in a crack.
>
Well, did it ever dawn on you, Mr. Ham Operator, that I would want to become
a Ham operator and get a license before doing this? I've been thinking
about doing this, but if this is the type of asshole help I'll receive,
you're right. I'll just use whatever commercial means of doing what I
wanted...
Thanks a lot
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Date: Fri, 08 Oct 1999 19:16:10 GMT
From: mjgilbert@wcom.net (Matt Gilbert)
Subject: Remote dialup via ham 2m etc?
You'll have to excuse the moronic replies you got to your
quite legit. question. I too have asked that question in
some form or another from time to time.
I know there are some Radio-Software marriages out there
that allow you to use HF digital modes (amtor, pactor) to
access gateways to allow you to get internet mail. This
allows folks at sea to get email without have to pay big
bucks for a sat. downlink.
Now as to real-time accesss to an ISP, the thru-put would
be dismal but there is no technical or even legal reason
you couldn't do it. You would have to make sure you followed
all the FCC rules and regs but I would think you would just be
running TCP over a packet link - somewhere there would just
have to be a gateway to the internet. Actually it would surprise
me if someone isn't already doing this or has at least tried it
for proof of concept.
You might want to look out at http://www.tapr.org and see
if there is anything out there about it.
Cheers,
Matt - K8KDR
On Fri, 08 Oct 1999 05:07:02 GMT, "nobody"
<nospamjkb@vcnet.nospam.com> wrote:
>Hello,
>Although I'm not a ham operator, I was wondering if the following was
>practical. Could I use a portable or handheld computer, a modem, and a 2m
>radio (or maybe HF) to dial up a local ISP as opposed to using a cellular
>modem via either a repeater or some base station? Why would I do such a
>thing? I want to try to establish a real-time link for longer distances or
>not exactly line of sight than what cell modems can do. Basically, we're
>talking out in the boonies (miles away).
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