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To : MOVIES@WW
First. I don't think I have ever seen Night to Remember, and i have been
reading the bulls, so I can't comment.
I am old enough to have seen The Dam Busters the first time around and a lot
of times since but there was a TV programme which fitted in a lot more with
what I had read. Firstly, Guy Gibson, according to interviews with people who
knew him, was not a nice man. Like a lot of small men, he was a martinet
without many friends. Unlike the film, he did not select the crews to be under
him, they were selected independently and he only met them when they turned
up.
As for Nigger,trigger, Digger etc; I remember that Nigger was a very common
name for an all black dog and a few cats. Like Rover, or Ranger even Fido.
Those names have long disappeared, so much so that, in 1990, I named my last
puppy Fido. After a few months when he became a very obvious German Shepher,
people aked my why he was called Fido, I explained and added "He doesn't care
what he is called, in fact he won't come to his pedigree name, which was long
and German.".
Secondly, the film told the full story of Barnes Wallis. He was not a quiet
bumbling man. He had many years as a chief scientist/engineer, working on the
R101 airship, the Wellington bomber(which IS mentioned in the film) and later
the Tallboy and Earthquake bombes since reinvented by the Americans and called
the Bunker Buster. Later, during the problems with the so called Sound
barrier, he came up with the Swing Wing Jet, still used on many modern
fighters.
Like a lot of great inventors like John Logie baird and James Dyson, he did
not get a University degree, neither did Albert Einstein for that matter. If
the film did one thing for Wallis it made the government of the day give him
an honorary doctorate. I don't really see much point in some of the poor
degrees when people who got their degrees from some kind of technical college
as my father did and, in the 70s, so did I, they said I could put the letters
MSC after my name but I never have.
While it is true that part of the reason for the Dam Busters raid was to
divert attentionfrom the attack via Sicily, it did have some effect on the
Ruhr production. What is quite amusing is that the Germens recovered one of
the unexploded bombs, reverse engineered it and used a version to attack
shipping.
Bottom line: most of what we see on TV and film is propaganda and you have to
ask yourself "why are they saying so and so happened ? when it is patently not
true."
The raid on Peenemunde is still shown as a great success when, most of the
bombs fell on a fake target 3 miles away. How else could the Germans have
moved most equipment to Nordhausen in a few days.It wasn't just the British
who were brilliant a t faking factories and docks in empty fields.....
If you can, try reading the three versions of the Assassination of Rheinhardt
Heydrich. Ranging from almost total lie to partial truth to about 90% truth.
The commonest, which was on TV today will have been the first - I don't know,
I didn't bother watching it.
As the general in another comedy war film used to say "Baaaaaa,Baaaaa.Baaa"
73 - Ian, G0TEZ @ GB7CIP
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