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Message: 29
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 10:10:32 +0000
From: John Ronan <jronan_at_tssg.org>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Battery Packs...and more...
>Has anyone ever used APRS to identify a visitor to your local area,
>generate an automatic msg to the APRS unit welcoming them to your
>area (entering a preset parimeter) and refer them to your primary
>voice repeater? We have also thought of then, after a reasonable
>delay for the operator to tune to the repeater, running text to
>speech to welcome the visitor to the area and state some of the
>control commands (WX, Echo & IRLP dialing codes, etc.) for the
>repeater, our website (lcarc.ca) and other useful bits of info.
Nope,
But we do have a Digi_ned node running that announces all the
repeaters about every 20 mins or so, it can also be requested for
other information such as Police Station, Hospital etc.
More than once I received an email from a 'Tourist' after they got
home saying how useful they found it. Now you have me thinking that
I should check/update the information, as its been a while since I did.
Regards
de John
EI7IG
--
John Ronan <jronan_at_tssg.org>, +353-51-302938
Telecommunications Software & Systems Group, http://www.tssg.org
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Message: 30
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 06:25:18 -0800 (PST)
From: "Curt, WE7U" <archer_at_eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] UI-View over LAN...
On Mon, 19 Feb 2007, Wes Johnston, AI4PX wrote:
>Speaking of this thread.... is there any aprs software out there that
>will make a webpage like winaprs used to? I mean that it will
>generate images with the icon plotted on it as opposed to sending my
>browser to mapblast or aprsworld.... I'm trying to run a web enabled
>aprs kiosk at a location that will not have internet but will have
>local wifi.
I use Xastir + Apache to do this.
--
Curt, WE7U. APRS Client Comparisons: http://www.eskimo.com/~archer
"Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math." -- unknown
"Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates." -- WE7U
"The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!"
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Message: 31
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 09:33:45 -0500
From: "Stephen Brown Jr" <stephen.brown75_at_gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] UI-View over LAN...
>I use Xastir + Apache to do this.
Curt, just curious, is this a feature that is built into Xastir that you are
doing this with? If not, how and what did you accomplish.... Just really
curious....
Thanks,
Stephen
N1VLV
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Message: 32
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 06:49:36 -0800 (PST)
From: "Curt, WE7U" <archer_at_eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] UI-View over LAN...
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007, Stephen Brown Jr wrote:
>>I use Xastir + Apache to do this.
>
>Curt, just curious, is this a feature that is built into Xastir that you are
>doing this with? If not, how and what did you accomplish.... Just really
>curious....
Xastir has automatic "snapshot" capability built-in, so it can take a
snapshot of the map screen every XX minutes (set by a timing slider) and
create a PNG image. You then set up the Apache webserver (or whatever web
server you wish to run) to be able to use that image. In other words,
Xastir won't make any HTML pages, but you can display serve up a PNG image
directly or embed that image inside some other HTML page. Works great.
--
Curt, WE7U. APRS Client Comparisons: http://www.eskimo.com/~archer
"Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math." -- unknown
"Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates." -- WE7U
"The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!"
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Message: 33
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 09:56:15 -0500
From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga_at_usna.edu>
Subject: [aprssig] Welcoming Travelers
>Has anyone ever used APRS to identify a visitor to your
>local area, generate an automatic msg... welcoming them...
>and refer them to your primary voice repeater?
This welcoming of travelers by providing them with a local travelers VOICE
repeater object on the front panel of their radio is the objective behind
the LOCAL INFO INITIATIVE:
http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/localinfo.html
I agree that it is a very powerful and useful function of APRS! We need
digipeater owners to implement it in all digipeaters everywhere. It is a
no-cost addition, since it is originated at the DIGIpeaters that can
listen-before-TX and so avoid any collision with other packets. But these
packets MUST BE KEPT LOCAL and DIRECT ONLY!!! They only have local DIRECT
value and are SPAM everywhere else.
Bob, WB4APR
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Message: 34
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 09:02:42 -0600
From: "Matt Werner" <kb0kqa_at_gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Battery Packs...and more...
On 2/19/07, NPD Service <pservice_at_nb.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>Has anyone ever used APRS to identify a visitor to your local area, generate
>an automatic msg to the APRS unit welcoming them to your area (entering a
>preset parimeter) and refer them to your primary voice repeater? We have
>also thought of then, after a reasonable delay for the operator to tune to
>the repeater, running text to speech to welcome the visitor to the area and
>state some of the control commands (WX, Echo & IRLP dialing codes, etc.) for
>the repeater, our website (lcarc.ca) and other useful bits of info.
Personally I would find it annoying. If I want to QSY to a voice repeater
I'd want to pick the frequency up off from an object that you transmit. If
I receive a message, I'd prefer it be from someone that is sending me one.
To receive automatic messages from repeater owners/users along a freeway
route on a day-long trip would be....annoying.
73 - Matt
KB0KQA
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Message: 35
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 10:45:43 -0500
From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga_at_usna.edu>
Subject: [aprssig] APRS SPAM messages (auto replY)
>Personally I would find it annoying....
>To receive automatic messages from repeater.s... along
>a freeway route on a day-long trip would be....annoying.
Absolutely! APRS SPAM messages that fill up my mobiles MESSAGE List and
then BLOCK all further incoming messages until I read them are a big
irritation to mobile users.
Also, these darn'ed auto-reply messages are pure inconsiderate junk most of
the time!
I added auto-REPLY messsages in APRS for only one reason, that is to allow
an EOC or other APRS*LIVE* operator, to step away from his operating
position for a few minutes during a heightened activity period. He could
enter a brief auto-reply message "Be back by 1207 PM" and know that any
critical incoming messages would alert the sender to his immediate absence
and when he would return. In APRSdos, this message times out AND is
automatically canceled as soon as the operator touches his keyboard on
return.
Instead we see people using these things 24/7 on unattended stations,
adding nothing but QRM and SPAM to an already busy frequency.
Unfortunately, these days, since many APRS programs do not transmit the
OPERATOR-PRESENT BIT, we have no way of identifying which stations (other
than APRSdos and a few others)are actively manned and which ones are not.
In most cases it appears that it is safe to assume that NONE of them are
manned at any given instant.
Therefore the last thing we need is AUTO-REPLY messages saying I AM NOT
HERE, THANK YOU FOR THE MESSAGE! Duh... That is what the automatic ACK is
for.
Please turn off AUTO-REPLY messages, except for KNOWN MANNED EMERGENCY or
PRIORITY stations where the auto-reply is used to *temporarily* inform net
operators of the temporary absence of the opeartor. If you have something
else to say to everyone ALL THE TIME, then put it in your STATUS packet,
not an auto-REPLY-QRM message. Also AUTO-REPLY message settings should
time out.
In my humble opinion.
Bob, WB4APR
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Message: 36
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 08:02:02 -0800 (PST)
From: "Curt, WE7U" <archer_at_eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS SPAM messages (auto replY)
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007, Robert Bruninga wrote:
>Instead we see people using these things 24/7 on unattended
>stations, adding nothing but QRM and SPAM to an already busy
>frequency. Unfortunately, these days, since many APRS programs
>do not transmit the OPERATOR-PRESENT BIT, we have no way of
>identifying which stations (other than APRSdos and a few
>others)are actively manned and which ones are not. In most
>cases it appears that it is safe to assume that NONE of them are
>manned at any given instant.
FYI: Xastir doesn't save the "Send Auto Reply" flag to the config file.
When it boots up the flag is cleared. If you get an auto-reply message
from an Xastir station the operator has specifically gone to that dialog
and set the flag since he/she brought it up. Doesn't mean it wasn't three
months ago, but at least it has to be manually set.
>If you have something else to say to everyone ALL
>THE TIME, then put it in your STATUS packet, not an
>auto-REPLY-QRM message. Also AUTO-REPLY message settings should
>time out.
Another thing we _could_ implement, but we'd have to warn our users about
this change well ahead-of-time. What sort of timeframe are you suggesting?
A day? An hour?
--
Curt, WE7U. APRS Client Comparisons: http://www.eskimo.com/~archer
"Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math." -- unknown
"Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates." -- WE7U
"The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!"
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