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Today's Topics:
1. Re: aprssig Digest, Vol 32, Issue 19 (Alex Carver)
2. Re: aprssig Digest, Vol 32, Issue 19 (Alex Carver)
3. Re: Sky Ccommand... (Stephen H. Smith)
4. Re: digi_ned Kiss Linux (Ray Wells)
5. Re: Sky Ccommand... (Bob Bruninga )
6. Seeking some assistance regarding computer programming (Charles E. LaMonte)
7. Batteries America BT-11H (NPD Service)
8. Re: Batteries America BT-11H (John Habbinga)
9. RE: Batteries America BT-11H (Walter Holmes)
10. Re: Batteries America BT-11H (Dale Blanchard)
11. Re: digi_ned Kiss Linux (Lance Cotton)
12. Re: digi_ned Kiss Linux (Lance Cotton)
13. Re: Batteries America BT-11H (Gregg Wonderly)
14. Help! KAM PLUS V8.2 and WINAPRS (Mr Mike)
15. Re: Batteries America BT-11H (Dale Blanchard)
16. RE: digi_ned Kiss Linux (Dave Baxter)
17. Re: Batteries America BT-11H (Steve Slay)
18. Re: Batteries America BT-11H (John Habbinga)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 10:59:48 -0800 (PST)
From: Alex Carver <agcme2002_at_yahoo.com>
Subject: [aprssig] Re: aprssig Digest, Vol 32, Issue 19
>Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 19:47:24 -0500 (EST)
>From: "Bob Bruninga " <bruninga_at_usna.edu>
>Subject: [aprssig] TS2000 SKy Command
>
>>>7) How do you remotely band change? Just have multiple memories?
>>
>>Key in a new frequency via VFO control and the TS2000 will switch bands.
>
>I tried that over and over again, and it would only
>work if I dialed in a freq on the same band. Just
>don't know why it doesnt work for me.
>
>I also just cannt figure out where the initial
>operating freq comes from. Since you have to +/-
>through all the bands when doing set up and end up
>with VHF being in MAIN before going to transporter
>mode, mine always seems to come up on some 20 meter
>fequency that does not see to have anything to do
>with my A or B VFO's.
That's very strange. On the TS-480, just keying in a frequency will cause
it to flip bands without having to use the band selection buttons. I was
rereading the manual on the Sky Command system but nothing seems to
indicate band switching.
>>>8) how can you edit out an extra character in a 4
>>>or 5 character call? There is no SPACE character
>>>and no DEL button that I can find.
>>
>>Space is the zero key and delete is the A/B button on the D7.
>
>Doesn't work for me on the D700. I'm trying to dial
>in the TRANSPORTER and COMMANDER calls using the
>TS-2000 front panel and cannot find any button
>anywhere that equals a SPACE. And the DIAL only
>provides 0-9,A-Z and -. I can t find a SPACE...
>The TS-2000 does not have a TTpad microphone and the
>TTpad on the front of the radio does not seem to let
>"0" be a space like the D7.
The zero key works just fine as a space on my D700 as do the rest of the
keys for text input. Try enabling the Microphone DTMF monitor option (menu
1-8-6). As for delete on the D700, that's a soft key specifically the
second soft key from the left (in order they are Backup (AKA cancel),
Delete, left arrow, right arrow, Insert, OK, and the left volume knob is
Clear (push the knob).
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 11:05:40 -0800 (PST)
From: Alex Carver <agcme2002_at_yahoo.com>
Subject: [aprssig] Re: aprssig Digest, Vol 32, Issue 19
>Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 20:20:55 -0600
>From: Gregg Wonderly <gregg_at_wonderly.org>
>Subject: Re: [aprssig] Re: aprssig Digest, Vol 32, Issue 18
>
>Alex Carver wrote:
>>HF privileges are still required to operate the Sky
>>Command controlled HF station just like they would if
>>you were sitting in front of the HF station.
>
>The normal requirement is that a control operator be present. If a control
>operator is not available, then the station is not meeting part 97
>requirements.
>Despite so many peoples attempts at asserting restrictions, it is entirely
>possible for a technician to operate an HF station just as it is for a general
>class licensee to operate in the amatuer extra portion of the bands. At issue
>is whether the appropriate licensed control operator is present.
>
>If improper transmissions occur, the transmitting station is responsible for
>their actions, and the control operator (this is why they need to be close by)
>will need to take appropriate action to stop such transmissions.
>
>Gregg Wonderly
>W5GGW
However, a control operator does not have to be present at the physical
location of the HF transceiver. They only have to be present at the VHF
control station which could be located some distance from the HF station.
And this is what I mean when I say be careful. If all the information for
controlling an HF station is floating around, it's possible for some random
person to try and use the HF station at some other location. So the word
of caution is about allowing control information to be published which
could allow an outsider to take control of the HF system without
authorization.
The whole point of Sky Command was to operate the HF station without having
to sit in front of it or have anyone there. This part is still legal
because the remote VHF station is in control (and all the links ID
themselves, too). But it doesn't prevent someone from grabbing control and
that's the part to prevent. So having a remote control HF station may be
great especially for emergencies, but I certainly wouldn't be broadcasting
that capability in general over APRS or anywhere.
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 11:43:48 -0800
From: "Stephen H. Smith" <wa8lmf2_at_aol.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Sky Ccommand...
bruninga_at_usna.edu wrote:
>>>I can have my HT and my D700 and a Laptop running APRSdos
>>all acting as COMMANDERS and all display on their
>>>screen's the same HF radio info no matter who is
>>>controlling.
>>>
>>You're running this on the APRS channel??
The way you were referring to the "laptop running APRSdos" in the previous
sentence made me think you were running this on 144.39 ala "Voice Alert".
>Yes, way back when SkyCommand first came out in 1998, I proposed to all
>authors that SKYCOMMAND should be added to all APRS programs,
Added to APRS programs in what way?
o Just as a new symbol for Skycommand objects? [Maybe we should use
the Kenwood symbol for this.]
o As a control panel to send Skycommand commands and display results?
Since one would have to move off the APRS frequency to use Sky Command, it
would seem to me to be of dubious value in an APRS application, rather than
in a separate program. By this line of reasoning, one should also add CW,
station logging, RTTY, ARRL radiograms/Marsgrams, HF propagation
calculations, SWR monitoring and who knows how many other features that are
vaguely related to APRS operating into APRS programs.
--
Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf (at) aol.com
EchoLink Node: 14400 [Think bottom of the 2M band]
Home Page: http://wa8lmf.com --OR-- http://wa8lmf.net
NEW! TNC Test CD
http://wa8lmf.net/TNCtest
JavAPRS Filter Port 14580 Guide
http://wa8lmf.net/aprs/JAVaprsFilters.htm
"APRS 101" Explanation of APRS Path Selection & Digipeating
http://wa8lmf.net/DigiPaths
Updated "Rev G" APRS http://wa8lmf.net/aprs
Symbols Set for UI-View,
UIpoint and APRSplus:
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 07:05:57 +1100
From: Ray Wells <vk2tv_at_exemail.com.au>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] digi_ned Kiss Linux
Bill Vodall WA7NWP wrote:
>Does anybody here have digi_ned on Linux running directly to a serial
>port (KISS) without the AX25 stack?
>
>Thanks,
>Bill
Hi Bill,
AFAIK you have to use the kernel interface. I seem to recall Henk talking
about the modular nature of Linux in this regard (so no need to reinvent
the wheel).
This from the User's Manual.... In LINUX, DIGI_NED users the kernel
interface; anything connected to this should work.
The advantage, of course, of using the kernel interface is that should you
add other applications, they can share the same TNC's, modems, etc. Another
advantage is that pipes (psuedo-tty ports) can be set up to permit
different applications on the same machine to talk with each other without
the need for real tty ports.
If you're concerned about compiling ax25 apps, tools and libs, Bernard,
F6BVP, has a step-by-step HOWTO. He even has pre-compiled versions. Take a
look here http://rose.fpac.free.fr/MINI-HOWTO/
Ray vk2tv
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:10:34 -0500 (EST)
From: "Bob Bruninga " <bruninga_at_usna.edu>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Sky Ccommand...
>>I can have my HT and my D700 and a Laptop running
>>APRSdos all acting as COMMANDERS and all display
>>on their screen's the same HF radio info no matter
>>who is controlling.
>
>Added to APRS programs in what way?
Just to display the HF radio's frequency, band, and mode, etc. The users
just QSY's his radio to he SkyCOmmand frequency, and monitors for 1 minute
and he will get an update packet showing what the HF rig is tuned to.
>o...as a new symbol for Skycommand objects?
Maybe, I was thiking of just using the HF symbol.
>o As a control panel to send Skycommand commands and display results?
Yes, I can enter a FREQ and APRSdos will send the correct SkyCommand packet
to cause it to happen.
>Since one would have to move off the APRS frequency to
>use Sky Command, it would seem to me to be of dubious
>value in an APRS application, rather than in a separate
>program.
True, but why write a whole new application just to display a frequency and
mode and to send just a single FREQ comand? when you already have it
running and might just want to QSY for a minute to see what the HF is
listening to.
>By this line of reasoning, one should also add CW,
>station logging, RTTY, ARRL radiograms/Marsgrams, HF
>propagation calculations, SWR monitoring and who knows
>how many other features that are vaguely related to
>APRS operating into APRS programs.
Yes, if they transmit AX.25 in UI packets, thn it makes sense to monitor
them in APRS. But if they have nothing to do with AX.25 then there is no
reason to have them in APRS. SkyCommand comunicates just like APRS, by
using UI packets for command and display of data.
This is EXACTLY what APRS was desgned for years ago, to display to the user
EVERYTHIGN going on in ham radio around him that was avaialbe on AX.25 UI
packets.
Bob, WB4APR
--
Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf (at) aol.com
EchoLink Node: 14400 [Think bottom of the 2M band]
Home Page: http://wa8lmf.com --OR-- http://wa8lmf.net
NEW! TNC Test CD
http://wa8lmf.net/TNCtest
JavAPRS Filter Port 14580 Guide
http://wa8lmf.net/aprs/JAVaprsFilters.htm
"APRS 101" Explanation of APRS Path Selection & Digipeating
http://wa8lmf.net/DigiPaths
Updated "Rev G" APRS http://wa8lmf.net/aprs
Symbols Set for UI-View,
UIpoint and APRSplus:
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