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Today's Topics:
1. RE: RE: European Digipeating standards (Cap Pennell)
2. APRS Icons on Garmin Receivers (william.diaz_at_comcast.net)
3. Re: APRS Icons on Garmin Receivers (Curt, WE7U)
4. Re: APRS Icons on Garmin Receivers (Jason Winningham)
5. Re: APRS Icons on Garmin Receivers (william.diaz_at_comcast.net)
6. Re: APRS Icons on Garmin Receivers (william.diaz_at_comcast.net)
7. Re: APRS Icons on Garmin Receivers (Jason Winningham)
8. Re: APRS Icons on Garmin Receivers (Wes Johnston, AI4PX)
9. Smart Beaconing and Corner Pegging (M J)
10. RE: Smart Beaconing and Corner Pegging (Robert Bruninga)
11. Re: RE: European Digipeating standards (Jan T. Pharo)
12. Re: Smart Beaconing and Corner Pegging (Tom Russo)
13. Re: APRS Icons on Garmin Receivers (Jason Winningham)
14. Re: aprssig Digest, Vol 32, Issue 8 (Philip Koban)
15. Tour de Palm springs (Eric Goforth)
16. RE: Need GPS for D700 (Dave Baxter)
17. Re: Smart Beaconing and Corner Pegging (M J)
18. PalmOS APRS Program (Curt, WE7U)
19. Magic string to force D700 to power up? (J T)
20. RE: Need GPS for D700 (Charles Doughtie)
21. Re: Magic string to force D700 to power up? (Jason Winningham)
22. Re: Magic string to force D700 to power up? (Wes Johnston, AI4PX)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:03:11 -0800
From: "Cap Pennell" <cap_at_cruzio.com>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] RE: European Digipeating standards
Luckily, it's a short step from RELAY,WIDEn-N to the improved over-the-air
efficiency of more modern "traceable WIDEn-N" alone, and any fill-in digis
can operate WIDE1-1 instead of RELAY. The improvement can even be
implemented one station at a time, so there's no need to wait for the
better modern system. UI-View32 can be used to do the digipeating job
handling both systems at once.
http://131.122.80.201/~bruninga/aprs/APRSpaths.gif
73, Cap KE6AFE
>-----Original Message-----
>From: aprssig-bounces_at_lists.tapr.org
>[mailto:aprssig-bounces_at_lists.tapr.org]On Behalf Of Arno Verhoeven
>(PE1ICQ)
>Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 08:06 AM
>To: aprssig_at_lists.tapr.org
>Subject: [aprssig] RE: European Digipeating standards
>
>
>On 2007-02-07 18:59, aprssig-request_at_lists.tapr.org wrote:
>>http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/aprs/New-Eu-map.GIF
>>
>>It is supposed to show what areas hav standardized on what
>>paths.. Does it need upgrading?
>
>The Netherlands is mostly Relay,WideN-n
>
>--
>73, PE1ICQ Arno Verhoeven
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 18:32:06 +0000
From: william.diaz_at_comcast.net
Subject: [aprssig] APRS Icons on Garmin Receivers
I recently purchased a Garmin 376C receiver and am quite impressed with
it's capabilities. It has RS232 serial i/o and a USB port for connection
to an XM Satellite weather receiver. The large color display is easily
readable in daylight. It also has audio output capability which is used
for Next Turn alerting, and audible Tornado and Severe Thunderstorm
warnings (with the XM Satellite Weather subscription).
Apparently, many of the newer Garmin receivers have the ability use custom
waypoint icons which can be uploaded to the receiver. The 376C can support
up to 64 custom icons according to the manual. Unfortunately, the only
way to use the custom icons is via Garmin's published proprietary protocol.
Sure would be nice if some talented PIC etc developer could create a device
to interface between the Garmin receivers and TNC/D7/D700's to convert
APRS packets into Garmin's proprietary protocol. It would be possible to
use a mix of custom and regular Garmin icons to approximate almost all of
the currently used APRS icons. The only exceptions would be those icons
that use overlay symbols.
The Garmin protocol also provides the ability to include a waypoint
comment. This could be used to include such things as Wx warnings, Wx
station info, Voice repeater info, etc. Most newer Garmin receivers allow
the user to access the detailed comment info via a text search or directly
via the map cursor.
The result would be a smaller display which would include much of the
functionality of Laptop based clients. Add one of John Hansen's keyboard
interfaces and you would have a super mobile package.
Any interested developers out there?
Bill KC9XG
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 10:39:02 -0800 (PST)
From: "Curt, WE7U" <archer_at_eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS Icons on Garmin Receivers
On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 william.diaz_at_comcast.net wrote:
>Sure would be nice if some talented PIC etc developer could create
>a device to interface between the Garmin receivers and
>TNC/D7/D700's to convert APRS packets into Garmin's proprietary
>protocol.
Why stoop to PIC programming when a Motorola or Atmel processor can do a
better job? I'm referring to the Tracker2 and the TinyTrak4, which are
both in beta right now.
The Tracker2 is an OpenTracker which can also receive and digipeat. It can
do custom icons for Garmin. From Scott Miller, N1VG.
--
Curt, WE7U. APRS Client Comparisons: http://www.eskimo.com/~archer
"Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math." -- unknown
"Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates." -- WE7U
"The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!"
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 12:41:54 -0600
From: Jason Winningham <jdw_at_eng.uah.edu>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS Icons on Garmin Receivers
On Feb 8, 2007, at 12:32 PM, william.diaz_at_comcast.net wrote:
>could create a device to interface between the Garmin receivers
>and TNC/D7/D700's to convert APRS packets into Garmin's
>proprietary protocol.
The Tracker2 does this, and Scott has made the custom bitmaps to match.
I think you can find a DCC presentation on his website that includes some
screenshots. http://n1vg.net/tracker2-dcc2006.pdf
-Jason
kg4wsv
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 18:51:18 +0000
From: william.diaz_at_comcast.net
Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS Icons on Garmin Receivers
Curt,
See below:
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Curt, WE7U" <archer_at_eskimo.com>
>On Thu, 8 Feb 2007 william.diaz_at_comcast.net wrote:
>
>>Sure would be nice if some talented PIC etc developer could create
>>a device to interface between the Garmin receivers and
>>TNC/D7/D700's to convert APRS packets into Garmin's proprietary
>>protocol.
>
>Why stoop to PIC programming when a Motorola or Atmel processor can
>do a better job? I'm referring to the Tracker2 and the TinyTrak4,
>which are both in beta right now.
Why do you insist on demeaning developers who do not use YOUR preferred
hardware or operating system?
If you will take the time to re-read my original post, you will note I
wrote "PIC etc". This was intended to include all platforms, but you took
exception.
The above comments and your tag line demeaning Windows users shows your
intolerance for users who, for various reasons do not agree with your
choices. Grow up.
Bill KC9XG
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 18:57:49 +0000
From: william.diaz_at_comcast.net
Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS Icons on Garmin Receivers
Jason,
See below:
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Jason Winningham <jdw_at_eng.uah.edu>
>
>On Feb 8, 2007, at 12:32 PM, william.diaz_at_comcast.net wrote:
>>could create a device to interface between the Garmin receivers
>>and TNC/D7/D700's to convert APRS packets into Garmin's
>>proprietary protocol.
>The Tracker2 does this, and Scott has made the custom bitmaps to
>match. I think you can find a DCC presentation on his website that
>includes some screenshots. http://n1vg.net/tracker2-dcc2006.pdf
Thanks for the info. The pdf file shows Audio in/out. Will it work with
RS232 in/out only? IOW, can it be used with an existing TNC or D7/D700?
Bill KC9XG
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 16:03:47 -0600
From: Jason Winningham <jdw_at_eng.uah.edu>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS Icons on Garmin Receivers
On Feb 8, 2007, at 12:57 PM, william.diaz_at_comcast.net wrote:
>IOW, can it be used with an existing TNC or D7/D700?
It's a replacement for an existing TNC or D7/700.
IMO, if it had messaging capability it would be superior to the APRS
application in the D7/700 when it is used in conjunction with a mapping
GPS. As a digipeater it's already superior to any device you can name,
except maybe a digi_ned installation.
All Scott's stuff, hardware and software, are open source (this is the
reason to buy an OT and not a TT). Someone sufficiently determined could
take the work Scott has made available and create the system you describe.
Hmmm, now that I think about it, you can feed the APRS audio out from your
D700 to the T2 and split the TX and RX lines to the GPS, routing them to
the D700 and T2 respectively, and that would do it. I may have just found
a new project for the evening. (:
-Jason
kg4wsv
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