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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 13:30:11 +0200 (EET)
From: Kauto Huopio <oh2lfm_at_sral.fi>
Subject: [aprssig] Commercial integrated APRS/GPS handhelds?

Greetings from OH land,

Just wondering: the market of APRS-capable commercial rigs has been
extremely quiet. With the introduction of GPS modules, integration of GPS
to a VHF/UHF handheld should not be a major task. OK, APRS users are a
niche market inside a niche market of amateur radio to equipment
manufacturers, but still..not a single integrated 2m/70cm APRS-capable
GPS-equipped handheld?

Reasonably priced, that would be a hit among the ham emergency rescue
service community, worldwide..

--Kauto OH2LFM

Kauto Huopio - oh2lfm_at_sral.fi
Kolmas linja 31 A 1, FI-00530 Helsinki, Finland
Tel. +358-40-5008774

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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 03:42:02 -0800
From: "VE7GDH" <ve7gdh_at_rac.ca>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] "Ancient" hardware

VIC-20. NASA was kind enough to mail me a wad of paper every week with the
keplarians for MIR and other vehicles. I would type them into the VIC-20 so
I could track MIR. It paid off with a QSO with Musa Manarov U2MIR one
evening. I think it was 1988, so the VIC-20 had already been around for a
few years. I also used the VIC-20 for RTTY and CW with an XR2206/2207 based
homebrew interface. It was just after I moved to my first "PC" that I got
my first TNC. Not long afterwards, (still pre-APRS), I set up a weather
station with a Kantronics KTU and a KPC-2.

73 es cul - Keith VE7GDH
--
"I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!"

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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 12:18:55 -0500
From: "Rich Schiller" <w4rse_at_earthlink.net>
Subject: [aprssig] TNC-200 Assistance

I have recently acquired a used TNC-200 and I am unable to communicate
between it and the computer.  When power is applied I get 5 lights on the
front and while I am connected to the port with HyperTerminal all I get are
"off the wall" characters, nothing legible, and no commands are accepted.

I have matched the baud on the TNC to the baud on the port and vice versa,
trying everything between 1200 and 9600 baud. I have tried using a null
modem, to no avail.

Don't know if I am missing something, or just loosing my mind.

Any assistance is appreciated

Rich Schiller - W4RSE
W4RSE_at_earthlink.net

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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 12:22:47 -0500 (EST)
From: Rick Green <rtg_at_aapsc.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] TNC-200 Assistance

On Sun, 31 Dec 2006, Rich Schiller wrote:

>I have recently acquired a used TNC-200 and I am unable to communicate
>between it and the computer.  When power is applied I get 5 lights on the
>front and while I am connected to the port with HyperTerminal all I get are
>"off the wall" characters, nothing legible, and no commands are accepted.

It sounds to me like you've acquired a TNC-200 which is in KISS mode.

You might have a standard ROM, in which there is defined an 'escape
sequence' which can be typed into a terminal program which will give you a
CMD: prompt, where you can enter KISS OFF, then reboot, and you should get
a more readable signon message and a CMD: prompt.  Unfortunately, my
TNC-200 manual is out in the shack, and I'm still in my bathrobe this
morning.  Mebbe somebody else knows the escape sequence from memory.

You might have a dedicated KISS ROM, in which case, I'd define it to xastir
as a kiss tnc, and see if xastir can digest the packets.

-- 
Rick Green

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
-Benjamin Franklin

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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 11:30:51 -0600
From: Ron Tonneson <ron.tonneson_at_gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] TNC-200 Assistance

Rich

Did you try setting the computer port to even parity, 7 bits?  Many of the
older TNCs want parity.

Ron - K0QVF

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Message: 17
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 12:31:41 -0500
From: "John Langtry, VE3NEC" <ve3nec_at_sympatico.ca>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] TNC-200 Assistance

Hi Rich & Rick

In hyper-term use the <Alt> key and the numeric key pad, this three byte
string; <Alt> 192, Q, <Alt> 192. That should get the TNC back into the
command mode. vy 73 de John VE3NEC

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Message: 18
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 09:36:49 -0800
From: "Scott Miller" <scott_at_opentrac.org>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] Commercial integrated APRS/GPS handhelds?

All of the commercial offerings I've seen have been very pricey, and they're
all proprietary.  A GPS speaker mic I found was about $550/unit (not
counting the radio), plus several grand for the base unit.  A commercial
tracking program like Fugawi Tracker will cost you about $700 to track 5
units on 1 PC.

The stuff's there, but the market is relatively small (the cellular services
are going to keep 2-way radio AVL a specialized niche, I think) and you're
not likely to see much priced for amateurs. 

Scott
N1VG

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