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Message: 31
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 20:21:54 -0700
From: Larry McDavid <lmcdavid_at_lmceng.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] New Kenwood radio?
Interesting, but what we could really use here in LA is an updated
replacement for the TM-742 tri-band rig to also do 220 MHz mobile. The
742's (10-plus years old) are selling for >$1000 on eBay! And, if it
included APRS, it would be a killer rig.
Yes, I do have a D700. And, wanting a 742..
Larry W6FUB
>I'm not at liberty to say much more than, there is a
>lot going on in the background...outside of the
>Kenwood/Alinco APRS world.
--
Best wishes,
Larry McDavid W6FUB
Anaheim, CA (20 miles southeast of Los Angeles, near Disneyland)
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Message: 32
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 21:10:44 -0700
From: "Cap Pennell" <cap_at_cruzio.com>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] New Kenwood radio?
Jason KE4NYV wrote:
>I'm not at liberty to say much more than, there is a
>lot going on in the background...outside of the
>Kenwood/Alinco APRS world.
True, there is a lot going on now.
Hams are hopeful with the announcements about Scott N1VG's OpenTracker2 and
Byon N6BG's TinyTrak4 too!
73, Cap KE6AFE
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Message: 33
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 10:11:24 +0100
From: "Dave Baxter" <dave_at_emv.co.uk>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] Rant - Cross platform portability
>I would point out the LimeWire is a java app and its
>distribution to 'clueless end-users' is both enormous and
>quite successful.
It also is not "real time" critical as DSP code would be, and does not need
any specific hardware IO, like to control a rig etc. It's purely web
based. Of course, if we start to see 10/100 network ports on radio's (as
much "High End" test RF equipment from the likes of Agilent and R&S is
beginning to sport) that would make things a lot easier to do with Java.
LimeWire is also responsible for most of the viri and Trojan infections I
get to exterminate on a too regular basis for friends and family!
My gripe with the "Open Source" and or "Cross Platform" brigade, is that
they do not document very well what is "exactly" needed. If it's that
critical, for Pete's sake, please include it in the distribution, not just
provide a weblink or comment that refers to a (often long dead) FTP site,
resulting in something that can take hours to find and download all it's
bits and pieces, only then to find that some critical part is missing, or
is the wrong version etc. (Been there, done that, got the T shirt etc
etc.....)
The end result is total frustration for the luckless user, who will
probably spit their dummy out, and never darken your door again, even if
you did build a better world beating mouse trap...
Then as others have mentioned, Sun's (and no doubt other vendors)
continuing move to update etc. For example, since one Sun JRE update a
year back, I can no longer communicate with one of my print servers at home
(a HP Jet Direct box) with the main PC, I need to go and dig out an old W9x
laptop when I need to do that, As it has an older version of whatever Java
MS supply with IE6. For whatever reason, I cannot "roll back" the JRE to a
version that does work. (Win2k, IE6)
If you like Linux, use Linux app's. If you use (note I did not say "like")
Windows, use native Windows app's. Mac? Use Mac stuff... Etc etc...
Instead of true cross platform, why not just compile and link the same
source for whatever platform is the target? Yes there will be odd
differences, and conditional compilation statements etc, but that can and
is being done in many walks of life, not least in the microcontroller world
where that sort of thing is accepted practice..
Lastly, again as has already been mentioned. Most (not all) Ham software
creators, do it as a hobby, NOT as a source of revenue (as someone said,
"to scratch an itch") so as many provide the fruits of their labours for
free, you cannot really call the tune, except perhaps for critical bug's
and major flaws. I include myself in that respect, I've only written one
thing of note (a WWConverse client) and I think that has a user base still
in single figures, but it works, and one day I'll fix a known problem, when
I get to learn just "why does it do that?"...... There is just not enough
time of a day....
Cheers. Keep coding...
Dave G0WBX.
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Message: 34
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 19:46:16 +1000
From: "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec_at_tech-software.net>
Subject: [aprssig] APRS to NMEA
Anything around that turns APRS back into NMEA to work with mapping programs
and trick them into thinking that the APRS side is a GPS ?
Andrew Rich
Amateur radio callsign VK4TEC
email: vk4tec_at_tech-software.net
web: http://www.tech-software.net
Brisbane AUSTRALIA
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Message: 35
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 08:20:01 -0400
From: "Wes Johnston, AI4PX" <wes_at_kd4rdb.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS to NMEA
Your mate Darryl's Anti-Tracker
Wes
On 9/19/06, Andrew Rich <vk4tec_at_tech-software.net> wrote:
>
>Anything around that turns APRS back into NMEA to work with mapping programs
>and trick them into thinking that the APRS side is a GPS ?
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Message: 36
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 06:28:36 -0700
From: <scott_at_opentrac.org>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] APRS to NMEA
I think the Anti-Tracker project is dead, but the Kenwood D7 and D700 do
that. And of course my upcoming Tracker2 (plus Magellan and Garmin
protocols), but it's not quite done yet.
Scott
N1VG
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Message: 37
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 07:07:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Curt, WE7U" <archer_at_eskimo.com>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] APRS to NMEA
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 scott_at_opentrac.org wrote:
>I think the Anti-Tracker project is dead, but the Kenwood D7 and D700 do
>that. And of course my upcoming Tracker2 (plus Magellan and Garmin
>protocols), but it's not quite done yet.
Well, not quite... (BTW: Xastir does the waypoint/anti-tracker thing
too):
Andrew was asking if anything converts back to NMEA so that mapping
programs can be tricked into thinking it's APRS data, not just produce
waypoints on the map like the other solutions above will all do.
In order to do this properly, you'd either need to have a very slow
incoming data rate on APRS, or you'd have to select one callsign-SSID from
the incoming packets and produce either a GPGGA or a GPRMC string (or both)
from the data, then dump it to a serial port or a simulated serial port.
It'd be relatively easy to do it with Perl and a /dev/pty port.
--
Curt, WE7U. APRS Client Comparisons: http://www.eskimo.com/~archer
"Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math." -- unknown
"Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates." -- WE7U
"The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!"
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Message: 38
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 07:30:11 -0700
From: <scott_at_opentrac.org>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] APRS to NMEA
Oh, I see. I think I'll add that to my to-do list - it's crossed my mind
before. I can just have it generate output for a specified callsign.
As for tricking the program into thinking the tracker is a GPS receiver,
one thing I'm working on now is having the T2 save all incoming positions,
and then having it dump them out to the serial port when it gets a Garmin
'send waypoint database' command. That way non-APRS programs can get
position data, with a little bit of manual intervention. Might let you do
drop-in APRS in a SAR command post with no other APRS capability, for
example.
Scott
N1VG
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Message: 39
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 16:45:34 +0200
From: Gregg Wonderly <gregg_at_wonderly.org>
Subject: [aprssig] APRSKML 0.90 released
I've just posted an updated release of APRSKML as v0.90. This release
includes support for specifying the host/IP-address to be placed in the KML
for references to imagery. The HTTP server in the APRSKML process, will
serve up the images for you now, and being able to specify an externally
routed address back to your APRSKML server will allow you to advertise
public access to the KML stream.
Gregg Wonderly
W5GGW
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