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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:54:31 -0500 (CDT)
From: wa7nwp_at_jnos.org
Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS Link
>It is inefficient when used with APRS using AX.25 and digipeaters, but
>it is efficient when used with D-STAR to communicate directly with the
>I-Gate.
>
>How would I connect to a TELpac node and do email directly if I'm not
>connected to the Internet or I don't have packet radio capabilities?
The better solution would be a version of a Telpac gateway for the
slow-data version of DStar. Hey Pete - were you planning on doing
anything tonight? :-)
Bill - WA7NWP
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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 20:19:41 -0400
From: Bob Burns K4RXR <k4rxr__at_rlburns.net>
Subject: [aprssig] New Kenwood radio?
At 09:42 AM 9/18/2006, Robert Bruninga wrote:
>By the way, I guess everyone has heard that Kenwood was showing A
>new radio (mockup) at DCC this weekend which would have APRS... In a
>year or so....
Anybody have any details they can share?
Bob...
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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 00:30:22 -0000
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE_at_MAILAPS.ORG>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] New Kenwood radio?
Well, you can put the control face on either way, which means you can get
the speaker on the top or bottom. Also, it will, according to the rep I
asked, have a "real" serial port for programming, without needing more than
a simple cable. No more funky level shifting external units. Also, the
display will be "de-cluttered" compared to earlier radios.
FWIW,
Alan
WA4SCA
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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 20:39:02 -0400
From: Brian Riley <brianbr_at_mac.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] New Kenwood radio?
BUT WHAT IS IT? You said nothing about but cosmetics that could apply to
anything. Is it a D700 replacement/successor? is it an TS2000 like rig with
Dc-to-light and some limited APRS, or is it something totally new, maybe a
DSTAR hybrid?
---
cheers... 73 de brian riley, n1bq, underhill center, vermont
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Message: 23
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 17:44:00 -0700
From: <scott_at_opentrac.org>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] New Kenwood radio?
New mid-range dual bander. Regular (single-DIN?) form factor. I glanced at
it, but nothing really caught my eye.
Scott
N1VG
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Message: 24
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 21:40:57 -0400
From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga_at_usna.edu>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] New Kenwood radio?
Looks about the size and shape of a D700. They did not have the APRS
control head with it... Just a fuzzy picture that looked similar to a fuzzy
D700 control head. They were passing out questionares asking how people
used APRS and what features they would like to see in a new radio... The
reason for the fuzzy picture is because it does not yet exist I guess...
That's about it.
Bob
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Message: 25
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 20:46:17 -0500
From: "Mike Nettles" <Mike_Nettles_at_centurytel.net>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] New Kenwood radio?
Hope it has a better 9.6k modem too!
73
mike kb5wbh
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Message: 26
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:47:04 -0700
From: Dale Blanchard <wa7ixk_at_earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] New Kenwood radio?
Alan P. Biddle wrote:
>Well, you can put the control face on either way, which means you can get
>the speaker on the top or bottom. Also, it will, according to the rep I
>asked, have a "real" serial port for programming, without needing more than
>a simple cable. No more funky level shifting external units. Also, the
>display will be "de-cluttered" compared to earlier radios.
>
>FWIW,
>
>Alan
>WA4SCA
None of this even resembles my D-700.
It uses a simple cable, but could be reduce to three wires with a custom
cable.
Turning the speaker over on the main unit may have some benefit, but
mine is remoted any way so does not make much difference.
More snake oil.
D-700 did not have a mountable control head.
I do not thing we are talking about the same radio.
I do not think anyone knows what they are talking about.
Dale
Nevada
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Message: 27
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 19:12:34 -0700
From: <scott_at_opentrac.org>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] New Kenwood radio?
>D-700 did not have a mountable control head.
>I do not thing we are talking about the same radio.
>I do not think anyone knows what they are talking about.
Say what? I've never seen a D700 without a remote head. The radio body
itself has no display or anything...
http://images.google.com/images?q=tm-d700a&hl=en
Unless you've got a different definition...
Scott
N1VG
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Message: 28
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 23:02:05 -0400
From: Bob Burns K4RXR <k4rxr__at_rlburns.net>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] New Kenwood radio?
At 08:30 PM 9/18/2006, Alan P. Biddle wrote:
>Well, you can put the control face on either way, which means you
>can get the speaker on the top or bottom.
The photos I saw on a Japanese ham's web site made it look like a
plain, dual-band mobile ala, TM-732 or TM-733.
>Also, it will, according to the rep I asked, have a "real" serial
>port for programming, without needing more than a simple cable.
Big deal. The existing TM-D700 has a serial port. It's just pinned with the
"wrong" gender. A straight-through serial cable with a gender changer works
on a D700, so this is not an advancement.
>Also, the display will be "de-cluttered" compared to earlier radios.
Not sure what this means. "De-cluttered" to some might be less functional
to me. I, for one, like the TM-D700 and TM-V708 display just the way it is.
I suspect that "de-cluttered" means less information which would go right
along with my first comment about it being a plain-jane dual-bander.
As to Bob Bruniga's comments about the radio being vapor-ware, I think a
new dual-band Kenwood is definitely in our near future. The TM-D700 cannot
be sold in Europe due to RoHS. The TM-V708 may have the same issue, but
it's not a contender in many buyers' eyes because it cannot be programmed
with a computer. This puts it at a disadvantage to the similarly-priced and
similarly-featured Icom IC-2720 and Yaesu FT-8800.
And, to Scott's comments about control heads, yes, every TM-D700 comes with
a control head. But the head cannot be conveniently mounted to the RF deck.
This complicates radio mounting in a vehicle because you now have two
things to mount and run cables to, etc. The Icom IC-2720 has the same
problem, though Icom has the sense to sell a bracket which will let you
attach the head to the deck.
One more thing, Steve Bragg made a cryptic comment in the HamHUD group
about Kenwood's new APRS radio having competition when it comes out. Well,
first of all, I don't think we have any proof that Kenwood has a new APRS
radio, though they may have a new non-APRS dual-bander coming soon. It sure
sounds like they are still fishing for design ideas for an APRS radio. And,
secondly, which manufacturer is going to choose to compete in that market
after Alinco and Kenwood have had the combo-TNC/radio market to themselves
all this time?
Bob...
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Message: 29
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 20:06:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jason Rausch <jason_at_ke4nyv.com>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] New Kenwood radio?
--- Bob Burns K4RXR <k4rxr__at_rlburns.net> wrote:
>One more thing, Steve Bragg made a cryptic comment in the HamHUD
>group about Kenwood's new APRS radio having competition when it comes
>out. Well, first of all, I don't think we have any proof that Kenwood
>has a new APRS radio, though they may have a new non-APRS dual-bander
>coming soon. It sure sounds like they are still fishing for design
>ideas for an APRS radio. And, secondly, which manufacturer is going
>to choose to compete in that market after Alinco and Kenwood have had
>the combo-TNC/radio market to themselves all this time?
I'm not at liberty to say much more than, there is a lot going on in the
background...outside of the Kenwood/Alinco APRS world.
Jason KE4NYV
RPC Electronics
www.rpc-electronics.com
HamHUD Team
www.hamhud.net
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