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Today's Topics:
1. Honda voltage [was] Re: [aprssig] Tracking my trip (KC2MMI (Jared))
2. Data handling for outdoor events (Andrew Rich)
3. Re: Honda voltage [was] Re: [aprssig] Tracking my trip (Tim Smith)
4. Re: Beacon Doesn't (Bob Bruninga )
5. RE: Messaging breakout (xastir) (Bob Bruninga )
6. Re: Honda voltage [was] Re: [aprssig] Tracking my trip (Ryan Tourge)
7. RE: Messaging breakout (xastir) (Andrew Rich)
8. Re: Beacon Doesn't (John Ronan)
9. Re: Cheap USB GPS available again (Jason Winningham)
10. Re: Beacon Doesn't (Curt Mills)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 16:58:37 -0400
From: "KC2MMI \(Jared\)" <kc2mmi_at_verizon.net>
Subject: Honda voltage [was] Re: [aprssig] Tracking my trip
Ryan, it sure as heck sounds like your alternator is cutting out and then
you are seeing battery voltage alone. Unless Honda has done something
cleverly special, I'd say you have an intermittent failure or a bad output
lead on the alternator. Honda has been known to do some special things with
alternators--so I'd check with a dealer, or Honda themselves, ASAP. If that
isn't intentional, you're dancing with a sudden total failure to come in
the car. (If the car is still under warranty, get it to the shop and let
them say this is normal on paper.<G>)
I think Stephen misread you and didn't realize it was intermittent WHILE
the car was running.
If Hondas are supposed to do this--let us all know?
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 07:12:03 +1000
From: "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec_at_tech-software.net>
Subject: [aprssig] Data handling for outdoor events
Gudday
Been doing some experimentation last few days into the best way to pass
traffic from remote sites into a HQ.
We have tried
1) UI send and forget packets - with linux perl looking at TNC
2) APRS messaging - with port xastir port 2023 talking to perl
3) 2.4 GHz wifi - failed misserably
4) Connect mode in AX25 with perl running on linux looking at serial port
By far the most simplest and most efficient was to set the kenwood up to 10
users, and then let them connect over good ole ax25 and send data.
The ack function was pushed back into the radio ax25 protocol layer instead
of the data layer eg APRS messaging.
Learnt heaps and found I could pass 17 pieces of infor in 2.5 secconds.
Try reading that out over air ! hee hee
All good fun, cheers Andy
Andrew Rich
Amateur radio callsign VK4TEC
email: vk4tec_at_tech-software.net
web: http://www.tech-software.net
Brisbane AUSTRALIA
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 16:23:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tim Smith <rt_smith_at_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Honda voltage [was] Re: [aprssig] Tracking my trip
How far from the battery are you measuring? Are you seeing a voltage
drop randomly or do you notice the drop when your radio transmits a
position? Even with a #10 feeding my transceiver (8 feet from the
battery) I see as much as 1 volt drop (at the radio end).
What is the measurement right at the battery terminals?
Tim, N1TI
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 22:29:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Bob Bruninga " <bruninga_at_usna.edu>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Beacon Doesn't
>>No, PHG must be the first 7 bytes of the position comment
>>field. That is the APRS format. Some programs may
>>accept it elsewhere in the packet, but that is just
>>sloppy programming. de Wb4APR
;EI7MLR-0 *010000z5237.06N/00646.71Wr PHG5840 430.950 +7.6
>I seem to need a space between the "r" and the "P" for
>the THD7 to recognise the object. Is this a bug/feature
>or me?
It should work without the space. Maybe you had a typo
the first time? Bob
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 22:59:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Bob Bruninga " <bruninga_at_usna.edu>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] Messaging breakout (xastir)
>We send check point number, time,
>and horses going past at that time
>HORSE,3,10:00,1,2,3,4,5
>HORSE,3,10:01,6,7,8,9,10
Assuming down there that just about everyone into APRS has a D7, then it
might be Better to use APRS so that you can use simple D7's or D700's at
the checkpoints without any fuss with a PC. Maybe you dont have lots of
D7's or D700's down there, but up here, most people have them and it sure
makes easy entry...
If the format is designed for easy entry... that is,
Here is what I would use for the APRS message format.
1) dont enter TIME wiht a colon. Takes longer
2) Dont retype HORSE each time
3) For D7 entries just press each D7 key once instead of the actual digit
characters, since digits take 4 key strokes per digit. The two examples
above when formatted from the TTpad of the D7 would be entered as:
3#1000#1#2#3#4#5
3#1001#6#7#8#9#10
But on the air would look like this:
d?q ?q?a?d?g?j
d?q q?m?p?t?w?q_
But since you are writing softwware to put it into your data base, then the
software can just as easy read the alpha characters and convert them to
digits...
Anyway, we always thought that D7 TTpad data entry was the way to go. And
if you were running APRStt (touchtone) then anyone with any DTMF HT could
enter the same data too, since APRStt would convert it from DTMF to APRS at
the APRStt engine. This way you get 100% participation and not just those
with the D7. But APRStt never caught on..
Those at a PC would still enter the the message
like this
3,1000,1,2,3,4,5
3,1001,6,7,8,9,10
etc
just a thought. Depending on whether y ou have a lot of D7's for easy data
entry...
de Wb4APR, Bob
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 01:31:02 -0400
From: "Ryan Tourge" <k2rrt.lists_at_gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Honda voltage [was] Re: [aprssig] Tracking my trip
Randomly and the same anywhere in the circuit. I guess I'll go try and pry
the info out of the service dept. Monday
Ryan
K2RRT
On 8/19/06, Tim Smith <rt_smith_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>How far from the battery are you measuring? Are you seeing a voltage
>drop randomly or do you notice the drop when your radio transmits a
>position? Even with a #10 feeding my transceiver (8 feet from the
>battery) I see as much as 1 volt drop (at the radio end).
>
>What is the measurement right at the battery terminals?
>
>Tim, N1TI
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 16:06:26 +1000
From: "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec_at_tech-software.net>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] Messaging breakout (xastir)
Mate people in this group have never heard of a D7
Andrew Rich
Amateur radio callsign VK4TEC
email: vk4tec_at_tech-software.net <mailto:vk4tec_at_tech-software.net>
web: http://www.tech-software.net
Brisbane AUSTRALIA
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 11:15:56 +0100
From: John Ronan <jronan_at_tssg.org>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Beacon Doesn't
On 20 Aug 2006, at 03:29, Bob Bruninga wrote:
>>>No, PHG must be the first 7 bytes of the position comment
>>>field. That is the APRS format. Some programs may
>>>accept it elsewhere in the packet, but that is just
>>>sloppy programming. de Wb4APR
>
>;EI7MLR-0 *010000z5237.06N/00646.71Wr PHG5840 430.950 +7.6
>
>>I seem to need a space between the "r" and the "P" for
>>the THD7 to recognise the object. Is this a bug/feature
>>or me?
>
>It should work without the space. Maybe you had a typo
>the first time? Bob
Tried again
;EI7MLR-0 *010000z5237.06N/00646.71WrPHG5840 430.950 +7.6
;EI2ECR-0 *010000z5209.53N/00736.09Wr PHG4730 145.675 -0.6
EI2ECR works on the TH-D7E, EI7MLR doesn't appear.
I'll check the TM-D700E later.
Regards
de John
EI7IG
--
John Ronan <jronan_at_tssg.org>, +353-51-302938
Telecommunications Software & Systems Group, http://www.tssg.org
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:33:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Curt Mills <archer_at_eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Beacon Doesn't
On Sun, 20 Aug 2006, John Ronan wrote:
>>It should work without the space. Maybe you had a typo
>>the first time? Bob
>Tried again
>
>;EI7MLR-0 *010000z5237.06N/00646.71WrPHG5840 430.950 +7.6
>;EI2ECR-0 *010000z5209.53N/00736.09Wr PHG4730 145.675 -0.6
>
>EI2ECR works on the TH-D7E, EI7MLR doesn't appear.
>
>I'll check the TM-D700E later.
See the 8th problem listing on this page, it might be related:
--
Curt, WE7U. archer at eskimo dot com
http://www.eskimo.com/~archer
Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math. - unknown
Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates. - WE7U.
The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!"
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