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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 15:39:32 -0700
From: "Garren Davis" <garren.davis_at_qlogic.com>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] Tracking my trip
I'll probably try the SmartBeaconing on my next trip.
Garren
KB6FAS
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 18:21:14 -0500
From: Stan - N0YXV <n0yxv_at_gihams.org>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] Beacon Doesn't
I really did think about it. Only had two objections. 1.) Didn't know the
_complete_ PHG data for the objects I was adding. 2.) Didn't like the way
the Voice Repeater Circles messed with the APRS Digipeater circles. You're
SUPPOSED to be able to view only one or the other in UI-View's PHG plug-in
but that ASSUMES that everybody has setup there PHG circles correctly. When
I _try_ to filter out the Voice Repeaters PHG circles I wind up filtering
out some of the APRS Digi's at the same time.
Quoting Bob Bruninga <bruninga_at_usna.edu>:
>>I use BEACON all the time to transmit objects.
>>
>>#! /bin/bash/usr/sbin/beacon -c N0YXV -d APJI23 -s radio "
>>;146.94 *`date'+%H%M%S'`z4055.55N/09821.75Wr
>>146.94- Tone123 Link24&18"
>
>It would be nice to include in all such RF objects, the PHG string so that
>these repeaters show up on APRS maps displaying their relative RF range.
>Antenna Elevation is one of the most important parameters in VHF Ham Radio
>and is fundamental information to the APRS user.
>
>Just a thought.
>Bob
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 17:49:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Chris Rose <kb8uih_at_sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS in Ontario/Quebec
I went to Toronto and then to Niagara Falls just two weeks ago. I had good
tracks from Sarnia to Toronto back to Sarnia but not hardly anything while
in Niagara area. I went from MI to ON and back.
Chris
KB8UIH
----- Original Message ----
>From: Brian Riley <brianbr_at_mac.com>
>Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 3:25:19 PM
>Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS in Ontario/Quebec
>
>I dunno where you will be in Quebec. But APRS coverage is rock solid
>across Southern Quebec (Montreal vicinity). My stepson goes to
>college in Montreal and when I drive from vermont to Montreal the
>digi coverage is wall-to-wall from 5 miles south of the border to and
>all around Montreal. I run WIDE2-2 and often hear my packet repeated
>as many as four five times.
>
>If you run a D7 with a 1/4wave magmount you will print to the APRS-IS
>80-100%.
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 18:27:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Matthew Stennett <wa4tkg_at_yahoo.com>
Subject: [aprssig] REF:APRS in Ontario-Quebec
No HF in the Car?: I bet you would have had a BLASTING signal from
SOMEWHERE around there on 30M: .....somebody jump in here:
--- Chris Rose <kb8uih_at_sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>I went to Toronto and then to Niagara Falls just two
>weeks ago. I had good tracks from Sarnia to Toronto
>back to Sarnia but not hardly anything while in
>Niagara area. I went from MI to ON and back.
>
>Chris
>KB8UIH
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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:26:31 +1000
From: "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec_at_tech-software.net>
Subject: [aprssig] Messaging breakout (xastir)
I have found a solution to my messaging issue.
I found I can use xastir as the HQ computer, and because messages sent to
xastir appear on the local port 2023, it makes it REALLY easy to then use
xastir to take care of the acks, and just use perl to grab data off
port2023
Andrew Rich
Amateur radio callsign VK4TEC
email: vk4tec_at_tech-software.net
web: http://www.tech-software.net
Brisbane AUSTRALIA
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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 05:51:23 -0400
From: Bob Burns K4RXR <k4rxr__at_rlburns.net>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] Tracking my trip
At 06:20 PM 8/17/2006, scott_at_opentrac.org wrote:
>Sounds like you probably want to use SmartBeaconing instead, to set
>different beacon rates when you're moving or stopped.
Scott, I think SmartBeaconing addresses part of the problem of automating
mobile trackers, but the automatic selection of different configurations
has the potential of opening up some other possibilities.
SmartBeaconing will slow down the beacon rate when the tracker stops, but
the tracker will still keep sending the same status text, correct? The
automatic config selection could automatically change the status text, but,
as Garren found out, if you automatically select configs based on tracker
speed, the tracker will change configs whenever you are stopped in traffic.
That wasn't what Garren wanted.
So, would it be possible to automatically select configs based on the
amount of time the tracker is in one of the selection parameters? For
instance, could Opentracker automatically select the other config if the
tracker was at 0 mph for 30 minutes?
This sort of decision making is common in my business, HVAC controls. If a
room pressure goes out of range for a few seconds, it's no big deal because
it probably means someone opened a door to enter the room. But if that room
pressure stays out of range for five minutes, then you have a problem and
an alarm needs to be set.
Bob...
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Message: 20
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 06:25:10 -0400
From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga_at_usna.edu>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] Beacon Doesn't
Ah thanks.
Yes, the displayed PHG circles for objects such as repeaters should be A
different color and/or separately displayed from other stations. But I can
see Your point if the software you are using is that limited.
Thanks, Bob
>-----Original Message-----
>I really did think about it. Only had two objections. 1.)
>Didn't know the _complete_ PHG data for the objects I was
>adding. 2.) Didn't like the way the Voice Repeater Circles
>messed with the APRS Digipeater circles. You're SUPPOSED to
>be able to view only one or the other in UI-View's PHG
>plug-in but that ASSUMES that everybody has setup there PHG
>circles correctly. When I _try_ to filter out the Voice
>Repeaters PHG circles I wind up filtering out some of the
>APRS Digi's at the same time.
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Message: 21
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 03:36:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Curt, WE7U" <archer_at_eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS wish list
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006, Bob Burns K4RXR wrote:
>Interesting point. The D700 will generate NMEA waypoints ($GPWPL
>sentences) for position reports that it receives and transmit them
>back to the GPS receiver on the GPS port of the D700. Some GPS's
>will then display those waypoints.
>
>Is there a PC-based APRS client that can read those waypoints from
>the RS-232 port on the D700?
That's not one of the GPS sentences I list on the Capabilities Chart, so
can't help you there (and I thought it'd be an easy thing to answer!)
I know Xastir doesn't currently decode it, but that could be changed in an
instant. Xastir does know how to send those sentences to a GPS though.
--
Curt, WE7U. APRS Client Comparisons: http://www.eskimo.com/~archer
"Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math." -- unknown
"Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates." -- WE7U
"The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!"
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Message: 22
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 03:41:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Curt, WE7U" <archer_at_eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Messaging breakout (xastir)
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006, Andrew Rich wrote:
>I have found a solution to my messaging issue.
>
>I found I can use xastir as the HQ computer, and because messages sent to
>xastir appear on the local port 2023, it makes it REALLY easy to then use
>xastir to take care of the acks, and just use perl to grab data off port2023
Theoretically that should work with most of the APRS client apps, at least
the ones that provide a server port. I think several of them do.
--
Curt, WE7U. APRS Client Comparisons: http://www.eskimo.com/~archer
"Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math." -- unknown
"Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates." -- WE7U
"The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!"
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Message: 23
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 06:43:07 -0400
From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga_at_usna.edu>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] Beacon Doesn't
No, PHG must be the first 7 bytes of the position comment field. That is
the APRS format. Some programs may accept it elsewhere in The packet, but
that is just sloppy programming. de Wb4APR
>-----Original Message-----
>
>>>I use BEACON all the time to transmit objects.
>>>
>>>#! /bin/bash/usr/sbin/beacon -c N0YXV -d APJI23 -s radio "
>>>;146.94 *`date'+%H%M%S'`z4055.55N/09821.75Wr
>>>146.94- Tone123 Link24&18"
>>
>>It would be nice to include in all such RF objects, the PHG string so
>>that these repeaters show up on APRS maps displaying their
>>relative RF range. Antenna Elevation is one of the most important
>>parameters in VHF Ham Radio and is fundamental information to the APRS
>>user.
>Ok, I was thinking about this recently, I want to do exactly
>this with the SEARG Voice Repeater Network. At the moment
>I've just put an Object into Digi_ned so that when anyone
>query's it, it will return the object
>
>;EI7MLR-0 *131122z5237.06N/00646.71Wr430.960 +7.6
>
>So what your saying is that I should change this to ;EI7MLR-0
>*131122z5237.06N/00646.71Wr430.950 +7.6PHG5830
>
>I must check if the Kenwoods display it correctly, and then
>configure digi_ned to automatically broadcast these maybe
>once every hour or so? Would that be sufficient, or should we
>keep it to 15mins?
>
>Another dumb question, (and I haven't googled yet), is there
>a tool in existence that would allow the generation of a
>string for a 'compressed' object that I could then paste into
>the digi_ned configuration file?
>
>Regards
>de John
>EI7IG
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