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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 18:02:24 -0400
From: John Mc Hugh <johnk.mchugh_at_att.net>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS Weather Stations
John Ronan wrote:
>Evening
>
>This might be a dumb question (on the wrong list), but we just had a
>club committee meeting and one of the members suggested we should
>purchase an APRS capable Weather Station. As we already have a
>WeatherTracker(TM), he was suggesting a Peets Ultimeter 2100 (with
>the rain guage). I've looked at the CWOP pages and I can't really
>tell if there is a 'standard' for this kind of thing.
John,
I'm not sure what a WeatherTraker is but the Peet U2100 weather station is
a good choice to use with CWOP. It can be used as a stand-alone APRS type
wx unit using either a TNC or the WxTrak unit from Byonics. Go to our web
page to find info on CWOP
John
--
John Mc Hugh, K4AG
Coordinator for Amateur Radio
National Hurricane Center, WX4NHC
Home page:- http://www.wx4nhc.org
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 15:40:56 -0700
From: <scott_at_opentrac.org>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] APRS Weather Stations
The OpenTracker also supports the 2100, and I know you've got some over
there. Support is forthcoming for the T2, but it's not ready quite yet.
Scott
N1VG
>I'm not sure what a WeatherTraker is but the Peet U2100 weather station
>is a good choice to use with CWOP. It can be used as a stand-alone APRS
>type wx unit using either a TNC or the WxTrak unit from Byonics.
>Go to our web page to find info on CWOP
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 19:41:22 -0400
From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga_at_usna.edu>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] Kenwood D700 and anti-tracker functions
Seems like a weird name. WHy not call it what it is...
an APRS-to-Waypoint converter?
Bob
>>>scott_at_opentrac.org 07/05/06 3:19 PM >>>
>>Ok, you got me. What is/does "anti-tracker"?
>
>It's a device (or program) that parses APRS positions and sends them to a
>GPS receiver as waypoints so they show up on the map screen.
>
>Scott
>N1VG
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 17:34:59 -0700
From: James Washer <washer_at_trlp.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Kenwood D700 and anti-tracker functions
Well, I keep asking you to send me a tracker2... but NO.... I never get
one!!
On Wed, 5 Jul 2006 10:19:57 -0700
>Yeah, they've been promoting it pretty heavily with the AvMap Geosat G4T.
>It's NMEA-only, so all you get is a callsign and generic icon, usually a
>pushpin or dot. It's not nearly as cool as my Tracker2 with symbol
>translation and waypoint comments. =]
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 17:35:54 -0700
From: James Washer <washer_at_trlp.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Kenwood D700 and anti-tracker functions
I agree, anti-tracker sounds like something the CIA would use.
On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 19:41:22 -0400
"Robert Bruninga" <bruninga_at_usna.edu> wrote:
>Seems like a weird name. WHy not call it what it is...
>an APRS-to-Waypoint converter?
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 16:54:33 -0500
From: Stan - N0YXV <n0yxv_at_gihams.org>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Re: APRS Video Podcast Distribution Challenge
>Commeants:
>
>Technical quality of video images... excellent
Me too very ditto.
>BUT, you have to download the entire file before playing it. I would much
>rather have a lower quality video image and be able to stream the video. A
>video that can be streamed can be *much* longer than the download first
>type. Yes, they *can* be both the same, but if you don't want to view the
Streaming over downloading would be nice.
>entire thing you can stop a streaming video before the whole thing downloads
>.. but if you tell someone that you have to wait 5 or 10 or more minutes
>before they see frame one it would discourage them from even starting the
>process.
>
>What was the point of the video?... who was it's intended audience?
Me too ditto. Was it meant to get people interested in APRS or in fancy
graphics and music. Didn't find it too informative. I'm trying real hard
not to come off too critical....20 years of producing TV commercials can do
that to you. :-) I'm so critical when it comes to video that I didn't like
about 99% of everything I ever produced.
>edited from the 'original' version? Was it made for this podcast, or are
>you just taking anything related to APRS?
>
>Fancy graphics... somewhat overkill for my taste (same for the music)
Ditto...hate to say it but reminds me of video I see young producers do.
They though in the kitchen sink just because they can, not because it works
or adds to the content. The 3D Letter Graphics were great just miss placed
and too many of them. Wish I had felt like I learned something when I got
done rather than just be entertained. I think that goes back to the
question of "who was it's intended audience?".
Again sorry if I'm too critical just my opinion. I'm 100% sure I'd have at
least one person disagree with me 100%. That's why we don't all have the
same tastes.
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2006 21:32:52 -0500
From: "John Habbinga" <kc5zrq_at_gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Re: APRS Video Podcast Distribution Challenge
You are not being too critical. I edited the video and I agree with you.
To some degree this podcast is a venue for me to experiment and see what I
like. I posted that video first since it was short and a relatively small
file size. The next episode is longer and has no music, other than the 10
seconds of theme music. You are stuck with the theme music. I licensed it
for a year.
I will probably post the next video a bit sooner than I planned.
Perhaps this Friday.
The Google version is online now for those that like to stream video.
The link is in the archives section.
http://www.aprstv.com/archives.htm
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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 08:45:34 +0100
From: John Ronan <jronan_at_tssg.org>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] APRS Weather Stations
On 5 Jul 2006, at 23:40, <scott_at_opentrac.org> wrote:
>The OpenTracker also supports the 2100, and I know you've got some over
>there.
Guilty as charged :)
>Support is forthcoming for the T2, but it's not ready quite yet.
Do you sleep?
Anyways, thanks for all the replies on and off list.. the 2100 gets
the all round thumbs up by the looks of things.
Regards
de John
EI7IG
--
John Ronan <jronan_at_tssg.org>, +353-51-302938
Telecommunications Software & Systems Group, http://www.tssg.org
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Message: 19
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 09:09:02 +0100
From: "Dave Baxter" <dave_at_emv.co.uk>
Subject: [aprssig] Proposed UK licence changes. Links to doc's.
Hi All..
For those interested, here are links to a draft of the proposed "Free for
life" licenses for UK amateurs.
There have been concerns expressed by others about the lack of true
unatended operation (not that we had that as such anyway!) such as may
instantly prohibit many Digi's etc...
This may all kick off when we get to October this year.
Download the 30 page PDF, read and make up your own minds. Any detailed
questions, contact the RSGB and or Ofcom.
A link to the new "Free for life" proposed draft UK licence document
is...
http://tinyurl.com/hl8tu For those interested, a 30 page PDF document.
Or the long URL version...
OK...
Having now downloaded (again) the document and skimmed through it some
more, one or three things come to light.
The /A suffix is back!... Bottom of page 6...
We still by default cannot run a "public" mailbox, voice repeater, or
internet gateway (IGate) Page 11.
We can... Record/retransmit messages to/from another specified licensed
amateur, IE, Packet digipeating I guess (NOT APRS as it stands?)
There is a lot of what seems new, in the way of allowing one to construct a
remotely operated station, so long as the control link is secure, and not
in contravention of any "service provider" rules/regs. That makes me happy,
as I can see the light outside the EM fug possibly....
Interesting part about not encrypting messages sent over licensed
frequencies etc. Not sure how MicE falls there, as if you haven't got a
MicE capable client, it's all gobeldygook, if we can still use APRS that
is...
Another interesting bit, "Identification" (Section 13) No mention of the
need to use CW?!?
We still are prohibited from putting anything in any airborne (free or
tethered) vehicle of any type.
***Please take note, any travelling hams from the US to the UK*** This has
never been permitted in the UK, well in my lifetime at least...
I can see a lot of people forgetting to update their details on the Ofcom
website every 5 years, without the postal reminder!... Parra "G", page 18.
Then loosing the license....
I suspect, that it will be necessary to apply for a NoV (Notice of
Variation) but at what cost? if you wish to run a true unattended Digi,
repeater, IGate etc, much as now.
Not sure about this but another thing, re PEP power. Page 25. They now
state "Average" power during one RF cycle at the peak of modulation. Have
to go digging, but I thought it used to be RMS power during..............
It's been a while since I read that part of BR68!
I also suspect that Note 2 on page 26, about using a spot frequency
(144.800) for transmitting positional information (APRS) at any one
temporary location. No mention of mobile use...???
This is only a "Draft" version of the future license. I'll bet anything
you like, some or many details will change by the time it all hits us for
real...
These are my personal observations, as a UK licensed amateur since the
early 70's. But I'm no expert in this, so make your own observations.
Contact the RSGB or Ofcom if you have any other questions.
Cheers n Beers...
Dave G0WBX.
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