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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Kenwood D700 and anti-tracker functions (Steve Bragg)
2. Re: Kenwood D700 and anti-tracker functions (Steve Noskowicz)
3. Re: Kenwood D700 and anti-tracker functions (Stephen H. Smith)
4. RE: Re: Kenwood D700 and anti-tracker functions (scott_at_opentrac.org)
5. Re: Kenwood D700 and anti-tracker functions (Robert Bruninga)
6. RE: Re: Kenwood D700 and anti-tracker functions (scott_at_opentrac.org)
7. Re: Using APRS via the AO-51 digipeater (John Ronan)
8. Re: Re: Kenwood D700 and anti-tracker functions (James Washer)
9. Re: Kenwood D700 and anti-tracker functions (Richard Amirault)
10. Renaming Anti-tracker (Tim Smith)
11. Re: Kenwood D700 and anti-tracker functions (Randy Allen)
12. Re: Kenwood D700 and anti-tracker functions (Earl Needham)
13. RE: Re: Kenwood D700 and anti-tracker functions (Tyson S.)
14. Re: Re: Kenwood D700 and anti-tracker functions (Jason Winningham)
15. RE: Renaming Anti-tracker (scott_at_opentrac.org)
16. RE: Re: Kenwood D700 and anti-tracker functions (scott_at_opentrac.org)
17. Does AGWTracker accept connections like UI-VIEW ? (Andrew Rich)
18. xastir : xastir-development (Curt, WE7U)
19. aprs-scs version 1.29 is ready for downloading (kb2scs_at_optonline.net)
20. Re: aprs-scs version 1.29 is ready for downloading (Amateur Radio WB8NUT)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 14:35:58 -0500
From: Steve Bragg <steve_at_hamhud.net>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Kenwood D700 and anti-tracker functions
format="flowed"
>On Wed, 5 Jul 2006, James Washer wrote:
>>I seem to recall someone saying the D700 has builtin anti-tracker
>>capabilities, and I notice that it does have both dataIN and
>>dataOUT on the gps cord, but I don't see anything about this in
>>the docs. Anyone know for sure?
>Curt, WE7U answered:
>Yes, the Anti-Tracker, D7A, D700A, OpenTracker2, and Xastir all have
>this capability. HamHUD too? Can't remember right now.
Not yet, but now that HamHUD has XON/XOFF capability, using its RTS line
for so-called "anti-tracker" (GPS waypoint output) is in the works.
73,
Steve Bragg KA9MVA
The other HamHUD guy
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 13:33:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Noskowicz <noskosteve_at_yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Kenwood D700 and anti-tracker functions
I'm still confused. The D700 *DOES* put waypoints out to the GPS from
posit reports. It shows the call & SSID. Is this what was asked?
This is "Anti-Tracker" ?! Makes no sense! I might think "Inverse-Tracker"
of "Converse-Tracker, or "Tracker Conjugate" [as in complex-conjugate]
could be (poorly) considered.
Man, I agree, kill that name post haste!
Tracker-Waypoints
Posit-Waypoints
Waypoint-posits
APRS-Waypoints
73, Steve, K9DCi
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 14:07:36 -0700
From: "Stephen H. Smith" <wa8lmf2_at_aol.com>
Subject: [aprssig] Re: Kenwood D700 and anti-tracker functions
The derivation of the anti-tracker terminology is this:
"TRACKER" = Transmit-Only APRS device with no RX
"Anti-TRACKER" = RECEIVE-Only APRS device with no TX capability such as
waypoints shown on a display GPS.
--
Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf (at) aol.com
EchoLink Node: 14400 [Think bottom of the 2M band]
Home Page: http://wa8lmf.com
NEW! JavAPRS Filter Port 14580 Guide
http://webs.lanset.com/wa8lmf/aprs/JAVaprsFilters.htm
UI-View Misc Notes and FAQ
http://webs.lanset.com/wa8lmf/aprs/UIview_Notes.htm
"APRS 101" Explanation of APRS Path Selection & Digipeating
http://webs.lanset.com/wa8lmf/DigiPaths
Updated "Rev G" APRS http://webs.lanset.com/wa8lmf/aprs
Symbols Set for UI-View,
UIpoint and APRSplus:
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 14:26:53 -0700
From: <scott_at_opentrac.org>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] Re: Kenwood D700 and anti-tracker functions
I've been calling the Tracker2 a 'bidirectional tracker' since it does
both. If anyone has a better idea for the terminology, I'm open to
suggestions!
Scott
N1VG
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 17:32:44 -0400
From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga_at_usna.edu>
Subject: [aprssig] Re: Kenwood D700 and anti-tracker functions
>"Anti-TRACKER" = RECEIVE-Only APRS device with no
>TX capability such as waypoints shown on a display GPS.
Such a device should be called an
"APRS-to-Waypoint converter"
Please, lets kill this anti-tracker term.... Bob
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 14:39:35 -0700
From: <scott_at_opentrac.org>
Subject: RE: [aprssig] Re: Kenwood D700 and anti-tracker functions
I think it might have gotten buried in the middle of another discussion.
Did anyone see my post about using a serial/USB GPS receiver like the
GPSmap 60C as an intermediary between an APRS-to-waypoint converter and a
mapping program?
The idea is that the waypoint converter fills the GPS receiver with
converter APRS data, and then any off-the-shelf mapping program can
manually download the waypoints. It's clunky but should let you get APRS
data into just about anything. Might be really useful for an EOC or
emergency command post where you need to interface with someone else's
mapping system in a hurry.
Scott
N1VG
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 22:44:27 +0100
From: John Ronan <jronan_at_tssg.org>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Using APRS via the AO-51 digipeater
>The AO-51 Digipeater operates on 145.86 uplink and 435.150 +/-
>Doppler downlink (9600 baud) but has some very unique
>charasteristics that are different from normal digipeater
>expectations.
[BIGSNIP]
I'll try and put some packets through it tomorrow... Igate here is
listening.
Regards
de John
EI7IG
--
John Ronan <jronan_at_tssg.org>, +353-51-302938
Telecommunications Software & Systems Group, http://www.tssg.org
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 15:58:29 -0700
From: James Washer <washer_at_trlp.com>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Re: Kenwood D700 and anti-tracker functions
APRS Controller?
On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 14:26:53 -0700
>I've been calling the Tracker2 a 'bidirectional tracker' since it does both.
>If anyone has a better idea for the terminology, I'm open to suggestions!
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 20:49:50 -0400
From: "Richard Amirault" <ramirault_at_verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Kenwood D700 and anti-tracker functions
I believe the term "Anti-Tracker" was coined by someone on the wiki, for a
device they created.
I, too, think it is a bad choice of words.
Richard Amirault N1JDU Boston,
MA, USA
n1jdu.org "Go Fly A Kite"
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 18:40:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tim Smith <rt_smith_at_yahoo.com>
Subject: [aprssig] Renaming Anti-tracker
AWPC - Automatic WayPoint Coverter
APRS/RC - Report and Capture
PRaC - Position Report and Capture
WIO - WayPoint Input/Output
WHS - WayPoint HandShake
APRS/CE or /CX - Coordinate Exchange
APRS/TAC - Tracker and Capture
APRS/TACC - Tracker and Coordinate Capture
TAPR - Tracker and Position Relay (sorry...couldn't help it)
73,
Tim - N1TI
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 21:48:02 -0400
From: Randy Allen <ka0azs_at_earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Kenwood D700 and anti-tracker functions
I agree. When I hear the term "Anti-tracker" I think more in terms of
AGM-88 HARMs (High Speed Anti-Radiation Missiles) :-)
Richard Amirault wrote:
>I believe the term "Anti-Tracker" was coined by someone on the wiki, for
>a device they created.
>
>I, too, think it is a bad choice of words.
>
>Richard Amirault N1JDU
>Boston, MA, USA
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 19:52:06 -0600
From: Earl Needham <needhame1_at_plateautel.net>
Subject: Re: [aprssig] Kenwood D700 and anti-tracker functions
At 07:48 PM 7/6/2006, Randy Allen wrote:
>I agree. When I hear the term "Anti-tracker" I think more in terms of
>AGM-88 HARMs (High Speed Anti-Radiation Missiles) :-)
Or else either flavor of ALQ-99...
Earl
Earl Needham, KD5XB, Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
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