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South African Ham Radio UFO Interest Group. Known as (SAHRUIG).
NEWS Volume 1 News letter No.142
Don't forget to "LOOK UP TO THE SKIES" you may see something exiting.
Your Comments, Sightings or UFO/Paranormal stories will be welcomed and
are needed. When submitting Sighting reports please send as much detail as
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Malibu Canyon, Malibu, California Brilliant White Light And Followed For A
Period Of Time
Date: June 16, 1988
Time: 1:05 a.m.
Location of Sighting: Malibu Canyon, Malibu, California.
Number of witnesses: 2
Number of objects: 1
Shape of objects: Light, Brilliant White, Constant, Followed for 5 Min.
Full Description of event/sighting: Strange Occurrence in Malibu Canyon July
88'
The event began as we neared the tunnel. I looked out the passenger seat
window to my right into the darkness of the canyon and I felt like I saw
something out of the corner of my eye only to be staring into darkness. The
Canyon is wide to my right and the cliff sheer drop off as the road runs
parallel. My feeling was that there was something there though which made no
sense to me at the time. It felt wholly uncomfortable staring into the
darkness in the window when I looked, like a fear of heights although I do not
normally have fear of heights. I didn't see anything at this point. I shrugged
it off quickly and let her concentrate of driving the car. I didn't want to
alert her to something that was only a feeling. We went through the tunnel,
and emerged from the other side. That is when I began to notice a "brightness"
from behind our car develop, as if there was someone behind us who was going
to need to pass us soon since they were coming at a good rate of speed. I
turned to look at my girlfriend and she was getting upset that someone would
want to race pass her this late at night and said something like "oh here
comes some idiot up the road behind us, I'll try to let it pass and slow
down". It was a weeknight and nobody usually would be on this road on a Friday
weeknight anyway. Maybe someone racing someone else in the canyon?
The light grew to the point where she squinted her eyes, and flipped the
mirror. I remember the bright reflection across her eyes at this point from
the rear view mirror was still a very bright reflection across her face even
though she had flipped it to decease its brilliance, and she had to then move
her head to avoid being blinded from that point on. The light was from behind
our car, it did not "flood the compartment", but what the light touched it
appeared almost perfectly white, perhaps like a sodium light or probably a
flash from a camera except a constant incredible blinding brightness. She
began to accelerate at this point. The mood changed quickly from being upset
to being worried that some jerk was trying to run us off the road or chase us
through the canyon.
That is when I turned around to give this jerk the universal hand signal to
back off. As I turned around to look at the person driving, I had to squint as
if I was looking at the sun. I thought I saw something that looked like a
large station wagon, except the lights went all the way across the front of
the what I call a grill. They were square and they were not quite like lights
with light bulbs that cars have. They were more like flood lamps for a
football stadium. They were slightly larger. I turned around quickly as to not
be blinded by the light, and saw a permanent ghost shadow of that large
rectangle of lights on my retina that was scintillating, and it hurt. I turned
to look at my girlfriend and she was becoming panicked. I told her to go as
fast as possible.
She got the car up to 75-85MPH and backed down on the turns. I remember the
tires were screaming on the turns. Even the slightest straight away she would
bring it back up to around 80MPH. I turned around again, and the light had
not changed distance to our car. It had remained approx: less than 10 feet off
of her rear bumper. It was impossible to shake them. The second time I turned
around, I did not see a station wagon. I saw a grill of lights. There was no
glare from a chrome bumper like you would find on a station wagon. The light
would burn like if you were sitting in front of a TV set too close for too
long, like a very powerful tanning booth on full blast. My girlfriend was
starting to under compensate her steering, and I told her take her foot off
the gas. She refused and she began screaming at this point. I put my hand on
her leg and told her to use the whole road, both lanes or we were going to
die. Anyone in front of us would see the light and have to pull over. The next
thing that happened was very strange. The light was gone. It simply ended. I
turned around, saw that it was gone. I looked really hard to see if it had
turned off, or if there was a shadow under the street lights and there was
nothing. It was completely gone. My girlfriend was shaking. I told her to pull
the car over to the side of the road.
She refused. She didn't speak a word for the rest of the trip. She looked
oddly frozen and determined in her post traumatic state. I tried my best to
tell her everything was alright, and that it was gone, whatever it was. I
flipped her rear view mirror visor back down. I kept an eye on her for the
rest of the drive back into town. She was different, and I was very worried at
this point about something and I didn't know what it was. Something was wrong.
For the rest of the drive I just let her drive the car, and she drove straight
back to her parents house in Tarzana, way at the top of Vanalden, south of the
Ventura Blvd. The drive for the rest of the drive felt odd to me personally,
yet very calm and relaxed, I was not "freaked-out" by what happened as she
appeared to be. Like waking after a nightmare after you are done being
frightened half to death.
She parked, and sat there for a minute before turning the engine off looking
straight ahead. I noticed two things at this point as she just sat there
almost in shock. The tape player had stopped playing the tape. The tape was
completely done on one side as I ejected it. It didn't flip or changed sides
automatically like it would have normally and I put the tape back in, and it
changed to the other side automatically that it normally would have. I then
ejected it and put it in my pocket. I looked at the clock. It took a full ten
seconds to wrap my brain around what it said. It said 1:12AM. My mind went
back to Zuma and it was 15 minutes to 1:00AM. We entered the Canyon at least
12:55, and somehow we traveled all that way to her house in 13-15 minutes,
which is impossible.
I asked her about it the next day, and she vaguely remembered it. After summer
she went home, out of state, where her real family was living. We had lost
contact with each other. I wrote her but she never wrote me back. I came up to
visit her a couple of months later, and she wouldn't talk to me the whole
time. I only would talk with her brother who was also a good friend of mine.
We didn't have a nasty breakup. There was no reason for her acting this way,
that I would have been aware of. I tried to think back to whatever it could
have been. I asked her brother to ask her about the incident in the canyon,
and if that was the reason, because that was the only thing bad that ever
happened. She told him she didn't remember anything happening in Malibu
Canyon. He said it was like she blocked out the entire summertime we spent
together out of her mind.
I was horribly heartbroken by this, and I returned home to LA. This incident
happened in 88'. Years later when I grew into adulthood I had a few nice cars.
Eventually I got a sport car. I still try to attempt to beat that record time
I did in the canyon. The fastest I can make it from PCH and Malibu Canyon to
the valley is 22 minutes. That is hauling and screaming the tires the whole
way, not just part of the way. I even got a ticket for it once by the Malibu
Sheriff in all my years of reliving that drive. My only speeding ticket in my
life, ha.
She eventually grew up to be a burn patient specialist and married someone
from her church. I have heard about stories of people who had "lost time".
Somehow, I gained time or "froze" time going through the canyon in that car
that night that I still can not explain why to the best of all my ability. For
a while I thought I wanted to attribute what happened to the Hughes Research
Lab that is located inside that canyon, the only facility. I don't know why,
just my own intuition. I can't say I saw a UFO. I never saw it leave the
ground. I never saw anything land from above. I felt like there was something
just prior to entering the tunnel and it would have been floating approx 500+
feet above the canyon gully next to the road we were on.
Perhaps what followed us could have been the Sheriff or some kid in a V8
muscle car. I didn't hear it make any noise above the sound of the Pontiac's
V6 motor. Whatever it was, was not a car in my opinion. It did not have KC
headlights. They were larger and square and not incandescence lights. They
were the most perfectly white lights I have ever seen in my whole life, and
they wrapped around the entire front of whatever you want to call it. I just
call it the "grill" of the front of whatever it was. A rectangle entirely made
up many large rectangular lights. Approx 16 of them. That part bothers me. I
haven't found anything that has that kind of light configuration on any type
of vehicle up to this day. It could have been a practical joke, maybe some
teenagers were waiting for someone like us to be coming thought he canyon late
on a Friday late weeknight.
Whatever followed us that night, came up fast, and stayed perfectly on the
bumper of the Pontiac and stayed perfectly behind us on every turn, and
matched our speed perfectly for at least 5-15 heart-racing minutes (it is
hard to nail down exactly how long the episode happened as I remember being
frightened and worried about being run off the road). As soon as we saw the
lights of the city ahead then it was gone like someone turning off a switch.
It didn't have tires that screamed. I was still very bothered by what
happened, until I investigated later on in my life the whole occurrence in
Malibu Canyon myself. I have waited until now to post this hoping somehow
after all these years I would have some way of explaining it, after all my
research, and I do not unfortunately. I will admit that I'm a huge fan of
Sci-fi books. And I'm a big nerd into systems engineering and that is what I
do for a living. Yes, I'm a big nerd today too. There is something weird about
the time we gained that night. I'm no longer bothered by what happened. It
happens so long ago now, and I actually enjoy driving that same road at night
sometimes, hoping whatever it was would return.
Kind of. Sorta. Maybe not. I have seen some strange lights over the Hughes
Labs since the occurrence. I have told just a few close friends this story. My
only witness, my girlfriend can not recall this happening. Her brother
remembers my conversation with him about asking her, but that is all. I'm left
alone with this memory today. I wanted to share it here in case someone else
has had a similar incident in Malibu Canyon or frozen time. That's all I
have. Thank you. You may edit this to however you wish for brevity but I
wanted to put as much detail as I can still remember and feeling for the
moment and also with my own conclusion. I'm a UCSC grad, and I own my own
company and have a house in Venice Beach, California.
Facts about the road: To travel Malibu Canyon length it is approx: 10 miles of
twisting and turning, normally at a 45MPH or 50MPH with good control and
handling in a car. It takes approx 15 minutes to make the stretch from the PCH
to the 101 freeway on-ramp on the other side of the Canyon road.
There are two intersections of interest. There is Piuma Rd (A road after the
tunnel and before we were followed/chased through the Canyon) and Mulholland
Drive another road we had intersected while still being pursued by the
light(s). Shortly after intersecting Mulholland Drive the object disappeared
in the process of a turn in the road. It is now the boarder of Calabasus today
and Malibu. The road changes name at this point and is called Las Virgenes as
you make the rest of the drive towards the 101 on ramp eastbound. The fastest
I have been able to make it through that canyon in a sports car is 13 minutes.
That is at a high rate of speed about twice the speed limit of that canyon and
also with much experience of the layout of the road. I do not recommend doing
this what-so-ever. The Malibu Judge at the courthouse is very strict about
people speeding in his city limits. It is 600 dollar fine for first offense.
From the on ramp to my old ex girlfriend's parents house is an additional 15
minutes or 10 miles at a steady high rate of speed.
Around 75Mph. Overall the fastest time I have been able to reproduce for
comparison is 25-30 minutes drive time all together. Mapquest is not 100%
reliable for comparison of exactly the time and length of the journey from
the PCH to her parents old house in Tarzana. It seems slightly longer, if that
makes sense due to all the twists and conditions of the old canyon road at
times. We had no traffic the whole way to her house that night either. We
never passed anyone the whole trip. We had the entire road to ourselves. Today
it is different, and housing has developed in the area to the point where many
people use this alternative route from driving back from Los Angeles to
Ventura County homes during evening rush hour and late at night. It only very
late at night can this be reproduced in a car without any traffic on that
canyon road.
Later on in life I interviewed someone who worked at the Lab in that canyon,
on a chance meeting in Malibu at the Coffee Bean and Tea leaf coffee shop. My
friend and I asked him what they test in the cammo box on the hillside of that
canyon. After a crazy look from the guy, and after explaining to him we were
just curious college students interested in physics, he kindly explained that
they put top secret military satellites in there and would bounce a signal
from the opposite side of the canyon on a "out-of-view" antenna receiver. They
would normally test microwave signals on newer satellites. He said something
about the canyon was known to be very special in determining signal strength
with regular predictability of weather phenomenon, and these atmospheric
conditions had a special variance they need to test during special ocean
conditions, or fog-like conditions.
All very interesting to me, but I think probably irrelevant to what happened
with the light that had followed us in the canyon. The only other time I saw a
light in that canyon that was odd, and it was above the Lab at night during
the fog and it was a green light glowing upwards in the fog. It looked man
made. The light we saw that pursued us through the canyon that one time, that
night I have never seen again in 20 years in all my travels and experience. It
was like the flash from a camera except it was constant, not flickering, and
very brilliant looking. Perfectly white.
1. I consider myself a skeptic of UFOs, but I do have an open mind due to my
experiences in the canyon that night. I'm not religious. I have no scars or
implants. I have no fears of driving at night or through that canyon again.
People know me to be a very straight forward, scientific minded person. I am a
native Californian, and I will continue to look for a rational explanation for
what happened to us in the canyon that night. My life is very different from
when I was at that age, and it is probably the most unexplained out of the
ordinary occurrence in my entire life that I can remember as clearly as I
continue to presently today. The only hint left I have to give anyone still
interested in my story, was the tape from that night. I took the tape out of
my pocket at the end of the night and put it in my tape collection when I got
home.
Years later I took the tape out to play it, and I remembered that it was the
same tape from that night. The tape is 90 minutes long. Each side is 45
minutes. I put the tape in the cassette player just as we entered the canyon
that night from the beginning, and it was already at halfway point to flip
over to side B by the time I noticed it stopped at her house and "waiting" to
automatically flip over. The stereo in her car if I remember was on, yet it
refused to flip the tape over until I ejected it and then put it back inside
the in-dash cassette stereo. At least 35 minutes of time elapsed on the tape
while we were in that canyon that I was not aware of at the time we were
chased through the canyon.
There was never enough time during the whole drive of 15 minutes for 45
minutes of tape to have been played either. When I start to think about this
it really starts to get very confusing. I do purposely avoid thinking about
that part of the story, and I kept this part secret from everyone I know
today. It is my own personal proof of how odd the whole situation was, and her
kind-of forgetting ever dating me that summertime in 88. If it was a UFO or we
were abducted, I have no evidence of it. I have evidence of something strange
regarding the time due to tape player and the clock in the car. We never
measured actual time after getting out of the car. I forgot to do that one
last important step. We were exhausted and relived just to be somewhere
familiar again and to not be driving in that car. She never borrowed the
Pontiac again after that night.
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Jersey City, New Jersey Gray ET Encounter
Date: August or September 1990 or 1991 (?)
Time: Nighttime.
Location of Sighting: Bedroom
Number of witnesses: 1
Number of objects: 1
Shape of objects: A Gray ET floating outside my window.
Not sure what the year of the encounter was, but it was around 1990 or 1991.
Previous to this event I had seen a UFO once at University in 1982 just a
blip, one of those brilliant colored lights that moves across the sky fast,
makes a right turn and keeps going. A few of us happened to look up and see
it, and there was no question it was not anything we had ever seen from earth.
So I was open to the fact that UFOs existed, but didn't quite know what to
think about them.
Not sure of the exact year or time of this event, but it was a year or two
prior to 1992 when I moved from where I had the encounter. The location was
the upper East Side of Manhattan, specifically 72nd street between First and
York Ave. I lived in a low rise 6 story apartment building on the 6th floor,
and my bedroom was in the back of the building on a very quite atrium. Most of
the buildings around were about the same height and I had a pretty good view
of that part of the city for quite a way to the North, West and East.
I recall that the book Communion was out and that people I knew and respected
had read it and talked about it with me, but I didn't (and never have) read
it. But I always wondered how could these ships be flying over NYC and pulling
people out of there apartments with so few sightings. After all NYC is a huge
place that never sleeps and has millions of people.
Well on the night of this event I got my answer sort of, a month earlier a
friend of mine introduced me to a girl who I started dating a bit. She lived
on the water near Glen Cove, the North Shore of Long Island, not too far out
of NYC. in a pretty quite place. As we got to know each other she confided in
me that she had been regularly visited by ET's, which I was sort of skeptical
of, but listened. One night I slept over her house and in the morning she
mentioned that she had been visited that night but they had left me alone. I
said really? How can that happen and I would not be awakened. I told her
"well, tell them next time you see them that I would like to meet them some
time". She said she would.
She and I didn't date much beyond that, but in the coming weeks I began to
wonder if I had done the right thing in asking to meet them as I had heard
some pretty scary stories from my friends who had read Communion. At any
rate, a few weeks later I was at home alone in my bed one night, when I was
awakened. I remember quite vividly that I sat up in bed or that is the way it
seemed, but that my etheric body (energy body) was half way out of my physical
body. I remember looking back and seeing my physical body fully reclined on
the bed. My attention was drawn to look out of the window, where I saw a Gray
floating in the air outside the window. He telepathically said to me "Hi (name
removed), you wanted to meet us. Here we are but you have no need to fear us,
we do not interfere with people advanced on the spiritual path." I said "Oh!,
Ok, and thanks for dropping by!" At that I promptly fell back into my body and
went to sleep where I woke up fully in my physical body and remembered it. The
Gray was gone. The one thing I remember which allayed all my fears was the
overpowering energy of Love that poured out of this being towards me that
ensured I would have no fear. There was no mistaking it and it was quite
palpable.
I understood what he meant by not interfering with people on the spiritual
path. I have meditated and studied and made it my life's work to work in
certain areas to help humanity. Exactly what and how is not really important,
but it made sense to me, that they would not interfere with people who
consciously have a spiritual teacher and work on the path of aiding humanity.
It also explained certain things in that I think many of the things that
happen to people are not on the dense physical plane but rather on the next
one up, the etheric plane. Not saying they don't appear on the physical plane,
but I think they can move about and operate on the physical plane and that may
be one way they evade detection.
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Kelowna, British Columbia Close Encounter Of A UFO (Object Gave Off A Hum)
Date: February 18, 2008
Time: 10:15 p.m.
Location of Sighting: Kelowna in sky looking towards Okanagan Mountain Park
Number of objects: 1
Shape of objects: Almond shaped, very bright blue/green, blinding white.
Full Description of event/sighting: I was looking out the deck window and
noticed an object in the sky that seemed kind of low for a star and was making
a humming, (electrical noise) it sort of startled me. I watched it and looked
over to my neighbors house to the left and noticed him and his 25 year old
daughter looking at it. I heard him say whoa, and he went in the house. I
looked up higher in the sky towards his house and noticed like a falling star.
I thought what is going on and I looked back in front of me and the object
seemed like it was closer. So I ran in to get my camera (regular digital
because it was right in cupboard inside door) I went back outside and snapped
pictures. My camera flashed and everything, no picture showed up. I switched
to video mode and captured it, but on my camera it appears to be further away
than I could visibly see it with my eyes. The neighbor came out of his house
again by himself and I noticed him.
Thought great, someone else is seeing this. I ran back into the house and went
to my bedroom to get video camera. I went back out and of course the battery
was dead so I had to go in again and get the cord plugged into the deck. By
this time the object was moving away and I could no longer hear the hum. I do
have a recording on both devices but it is not as clear as I'd like it to be.
The object was not moving erratically or anything, but it appears that way
with my amateur taping. The weird thing is, when I went to crawl into my bed,
it said 11:45pm. I called neighbor yesterday to see what he thought about
object the other night in the sky and he had no idea what I was talking about.
I seen him point and look at it and they all went in the house like quickly.
Weird that he doesn't remember. The next morning on the radio they announce
that a meteor went through the valley. Like I said I noticed a falling star
but this thing was not moving fast enough and people saw the "meteor at 5:00
in the morning where as I saw it at like 10:15pm the night before! I thought
it was later than 10:15, like closer to 12 at first, but neighbor has two 5
year olds and he told me what time he got home. Even when I looked at clock I
had thought to myself why were the girls out at that hour. Weird.
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Houston, Texas Punch Biopsy (UFO/Alien Related)
Hi, my name is (removed), I live in Houston, Texas. I've had 1 punch biopsy
and another mark of which is oval in shape with several layers of skin missing
which healed fast. I have no pictures and I regret this because I feel a need
to get this information out there. Basically these marks are the only thing
that makes me believe I was taken, otherwise I would just think that I had
night terrors or sleep paralysis. I don't know why I'm writing you really, I
just want you to know another person out there has had these marks always
following strange night time happenings. My punch biopsy was on my left leg,
on the inside of the leg right where the knee bends, kind of in that tender
part of the leg. Anyway I don't think it matters where they appear as one of
my friends had 2 on his left leg.
And the pictures up on the net mostly seem to be on there arm. I'm wondering
if you have any ideas about maybe who or what is doing this? My feeling is
it's the greys. I had a "nightmare" that I was getting abducted and barley
remember anything but seeing 2 or 3 grey's faces in really dim light. Strange
sensations and paralysis did occur upon "waking up". I'd like to know if the
other people with these PB's saw greys? I'm trying to figure out what race is
getting me by elimination, you know what I mean? If most of the people you
talked to with these punch biopsy's report are seeing greys mostly, its
probably them. The more recent mark "oval shaped' on my upper chest was seen
on my ex girlfriend 3 years earlier. There is much more to my story and I am
in contact with several abductees and it seems we all have these experiences
around the same time. It will get quiet for a long time and then the
abductions seem to start again for everyone at the same time. Anything you
could tell me about these marks would be an asset.
Houston,Texas, Not Houston,Canada.
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73's and Bye from Peter ZS2ABF - East London, South Africa.
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