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Hi Henry,
Thank you for your comments.
It is a long time since I read his book, although I probably still have it
somewhere in my collection. Meanings of words. He sounds like my sort of
chap. I have been extremely interested in etymology and onomastics for
many years and have found many interesting things covering diverse topics.
One discovers some very strange things pursuing such endeavours.
Myths. Hmmm. I have my own thoughts on these, formed by personal
experience. At present, I am engaged in research which has certainly
convinced me of one thing, and that is, that MANY "legends" and "myths"
seem to be based on loose, even accurate, fact. I hesitate to mention it
as I may be liable to a "Kangaroo court" :) accusing me of not using
"empirical evidence". However, I shall.
Although I have a professional background and am in total agreement with
gathering factual evidence which can be corroborated, it has become
obvious to myself over the years that in some cases, such things are
impossible to prove scientifically. In my professional life, hard facts
and concrete evidence were needed in order to make informed decisions
after forming correct conclusions and later to gain a positive
professional opinion. Others needed such evidence to concur and take
action. Mistakes were made of course, as happens, but the premise and
ethos of empirical evidence remains de rigeur as a standard in
professional life as indeed it should.
I was brought up to appreciate common sense, logic and reasoning, to make
use of these and all information provided before making an informed
decision. If insufficent evidence was forthcoming, then a viable or
conclusive decision was difficult if not impossible to reach. I spent much
of my life following this ethos and supported it completely. I have always
kept an open mind on a subject until all the evidence was in. In some
cases, this was not possible so no acceptable decision could be reached.
Many still fit into that category.
That was until a dozen years ago. Then I came a cross a dowser. That has
changed my life considerably and thrown "empirical evidence" somewhat
askew, although NOT I must stress, out of reach. Let me explain.
I was shown how to dowse and found that the "L" shaped rods (Made out of
metal coat hangers) did move when I walked around the area where I met
that dowser. It struck me as extremely strange and TOTALLY unexplaianable.
That was then. Now I am greatly experienced in this peculiar "art" which
many "sceptics" decry, merely because it does not fit in with their ideas.
I too found it difficult to believe and needed to do it myself in order to
DISPROVE it. Another doing it for me did not make it so for my peace of
mind. However, the more that I experimented, the more that I became
engrossed with this strange method of "finding" things beneath one's feet.
To cut a long story short, I have an avid interest in history in many
areas, in many continents, and have researched considerably on many
aspects of man and the world in which he lives. My library is consequently
now reasonably extensive and covers many subjects. Except for a brief
period in my youth, I do not read fiction, SF or otherwise. Immanuel
Velikovsky's was something that I read of in my early youth.
Experimenting over a period of years, repeatedly doing similar or the same
thing, over and over again, I saw that whathappened with the rods was NOT
just "one-off" but could be repeated. Eventually, through perseverence,
dedication and research, I began to understand the what and the why, but
not necessarily the how of dowsing.
I shall not go into the methodical repititious methodology which I
pursued, as space does not permit, but I now know that dowsing can alert
one to many things. Not only is it possible to discover water, which is
what dowsers are more well known for, and which has been known of for
centuries, but one can also find many other other items. Building
foundations, pipes, electric cables, mains, gas, coal mines, and what I
dowse for tunnels.
Dowsing is extremly easy to prove in a strange place to those who are of a
closed mind, although many such are too fixed in their attitudes and would
not give themselves the chance to see and understand what is possible.
Their loss.
I first thought about dowsing "tunnels" when I found that rods moved over
graves and indicated the actual oblong shape of the grave. I instantly
recalled a "legend" which I had been told of decades earlier of a
"Communication tunnel" which the legend had it ran from an ancient C12th
Tower to a local "Nunnery" which turned out to be a C16th Hall. After
"training" myself by tracking a KNOWN local (Early C19th Coal) tunnel, AND
proving to myself, and others, that not only was I able to find the actual
site of a tunnel, but was accurate in dowsing the width of same. After
that successful experience, I went to the C12th Tower site and found that
"legendary" tunnel. I parked up near where it WOULD be if it had existed,
and as with the first one, I found it within minutes of dowsing for it.
That set the scene for consequent findings. Precise planning and a little
calculated "guesswork", (Far too easy in point of fact as it was patently
obvious) allowed me to park extremely close to, indeed on more than one
occasion exactly on top of, subsquent tunnels which I tracked.
I decided to continue tracking the first "tunnel" to its "end point" in
order to prove to myself that it did indeed lead to the "Nunnery" (Hall)
spoken of. The first tunnel turned out to be just that. The first. I soon
discovered (By dowsing) that there were several "off-shoots" leading from
it which made it apparent that there was more than just one tunnel.
Consequently, I spent a considerable time following this "tunnel", mapping
it out as I went. It took me nearly three years. Work and family
commitments notwithstanding, it became a labour of love. By dint of
copious archival research I also found several old (C18th & C19th)
documents which not only spoke of that specific tunnel, but of another
tunnel from the same location. One document actually stated WHO had built
it and to where it led. This was in another direction. I later (After
completing mapping out the route of the first tunnel) tracked the second
tunnel and mapped that out too. All the time, I was hearing of other such
"legends" and dowsing those too. So many had other indications of a
tunnel's existance that it became muchmore than just "co-incidence.
Proving them scientifically of course is impossle and sceptics like to
think that they know better.
However, they do not. Not by a long chalk. Those who choose to accompany
me for some time however, DO find out just how effective dowsing can be. I
was once sceptical of dowsing too, though fortunately I was the type to
give it a chance to prove itself and did not dismiss it out of hand.
Scientific proof, other than actually showing individuals what exists, is
nigh on impossible if they do not give it a chance.
I only speak of this because I have been into several of these "tunnels"
which I have dowsed and know what I speak of. So many of these tunnels
were and are known of as "legends" that I am convinced that the vast
majority of other legends are not just based on fact, but ARE fact. I have
taken many photographs inside these tunnels. ALL entered so far are
blocked off. That is no surprise. After all, their original purpose must
have long since disappeared. Proving a short "run" of such a tunnel, only
proves the existance of that particular short run, the fact that it does
indeed exist, and that my dowsing can and has found them. Unfortunately,
it does not prove my greater theory. I continue undaunted. I can prove
what I say. Sadly for them, "sceptics" can not prove otherwise. The funny
thing is, that many tunnels that I have tracked, have a local "legend",
not only stating that a tunnel exits there, but enters the place where I
left some time earlier.
1. How could I possibly know each and every legend which agrees with my
own personal findings
2. in areas where I have never heard of before let alone been to or even
read of in many cases. I do not believe in such co-incidences.
Particularly when they are regularly repeated.
The finding of the Biblical "Troy" is only one instance of one so-called
"legend" or "Biblical Myth" proving to be true. Heinrich Schliemann had an
idea which he followed to the end too, and he was proven correct, even
though he actually destroyed the site he was seeking by digging through it
to another layer of habitation beneath. His archaeological skills were
sadly lacking, in fact terrible by modern standards, archaeology not even
being a recognised discipline at the time, but his tenacity and thought
process was proven correct. I hope that this diatribe was of some
interest. I am certain that many reading this know of similar "legends" in
their are or elsewhere. Do not decry them too much as I STRONGLY suspect
that many, particularly those related to church property, do or did exist.
regards.
as many as I could. That was six years ago. I now have a much greater
"idea" of where and what these tunnels mean.
73 - Jeff, G4XNH @ GB7YKS
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