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To : TPK@WW
VK2ZRG/TPK 1.83d Msg #:1051 Date:18-01-05 Time:4:26Z
Hello TPK users,
Maybe TPK users are still on Christmas hols, or the state of
packet radio in this neck of the woods is delaying SP messages as well as
bulletins. I now have a `Beta' programme working that achieves most of the
items in my wish list. (See original bulletin below.)
I've found a way to fool TPK into thinking a short help file is a longer
one, so item 11 is now OK.
Further testing with different capture file formats suggests that the
programme should now work for any BBS output after the List (L) command.
So item 12 should be OK, however I still would like more info on other header
formats after the L command. I have `List' info on this BBS software:
FBB 7.00i and 7.00g
F6FBB Mailbox and Server:- F6FBB-v7.04h (Thanks Brian in VK3)
F6FBB V7.00g25 (MsDos)
[FBB-7.01b-AB1FHMR$] (WinFBB327.01.35 alpha) (Thanks to Frank in Orange.)
Item 7, removing old message headers, works OK; as does item 6.
There is a lot of work involved it getting it working satisfactorily for
private mail. The `Beta' version puts private mail headers with a PN status,
into the `SB' BBS bulletin .LST file. These can be tagged for download as per
SB mail. The BBS numbers of PN mail are written to screen as the programme
runs. Item 5 has to work to get the private mail function working, so item 4
is still that, the programme will not run if RXMSG.TPK exists.
It seems that according to MAKELIST.DOC, my version does what MAKELIST.EXE
does, except for private mail. The MAKELIST.DOC file, in the 7plus posting by
Ian G0TEZ, is dated March 1994, while MAKELIST.EXE is dated October 1994. If
anyone has a later version of MAKELIST.DOC, could you please put it out on
packet radio.
In the March 1994 MAKELIST.DOC file, it says in one part, that MAKELIST will
"update your MSG_PRIV list." and later on it says " It won't automatically
mark messages for dwonloading[sic] - perhaps version 2?" These 2 statements
seem contradictory to me. I suppose I'll find out if these 2 statements are
correct, if I ever get MAKELIST to run. I'm still trying!
I've found and fixed a few minor bugs in my programme, and testing is
proceeding. It should be all finished by the end of the month.
As it seems that so few people are interested in the project, I'll be sending
the programme as SP mail to those who took the trouble to reply to my earlier
bulletin. No sense in putting out `useless 7plus' bulletins on packet.
Here is my original bulletin:-
VK2ZRG/TPK 1.83d Msg #:1012 Date:01-01-05 Time:7:00Z
Hello TPK users,
I've not yet received any replies/responses to my last bulletin
to TPK re MAKELIST.EXE, a week ago. Whether this means that nobody uses
MAKELIST.EXE or that there is no need for such a programme, I know not.
Alternatively, maybe, MAKELIST.EXE doesn't work with later versions of FBB.
So I've decided to write my own version. I've made a flow chart for a
programme, and it looks straight forward. The only info on Roger's programme
that I have, is from MAKELIST.DOC. I can't see why there should be any problem
with extraneous lines in the capture file, and having tagged files in the list
can be accommodated too, with a bit of effort. That would allow a programme to
automatically tag files, as defined in CONFIG.TPK, for download.
I've made a test with some dummied up files for a local BBS that doesn't
send me any unproto headers. The files allowed TPK to automatically connect
to the BBS and download some files. So the scheme works quite well.
However I lack information as to what versions of FBB are in use around
the world nowadays. The BBS's in this neck of the woods all use FBB 7.00.
Writing my programme just for FBB 7.00 would simplify it, as would making it
only accommodate TPK 1.82 and 1.83 TPK.CFG config file. I find that TPK.CFG
for TPK 1.81 is different from the ones for 1.82/1.83.
If you would like a copy of my programme, then I need some information from
YOU. I would like to know what version of FBB (or other software type) is in
use at your local BBS, and also, what version of TPK you are using. If you
send this info to me, then I'll send you a copy of the finished programme.
As well as the FBB version, I would like a sample of the header list from
your local BBS, after issuing an L (list) command. If you connect to your BBS
and send LL2 (list last 2 message headers), you will get something like this.
Msg# TSLD Dim To @ BBS From Date/Time Title (LC-choice: *)
5429 B$ 3175 SPACE @WW ZL2VAL 1223/1656 NASA Hacker to do time
5428 B$ 2730 NEWS @WW M5WJF 1223/1655 Re: MAIN NEWS - 19th Dec 1/11
Save this output by using <ALT S> in TPK, and include it in your SP message
to me. Do this, even if it looks the same as the above. This is the MOST
important piece of info that I need.
My programme will function in much the same manner as MAKELIST, as described
in MAKELIST.DOC. (MAKELIST inserts new message headers into a TPK list file,
from an ASCII capture file.)
This is what my version will do (hopefully).
1 Have a menu to select BBS's / private mail list.
2 Work equally well for bulletins and private mail.
3 Not be bothered with extraneous lines in the capture file.
4 Not be bothered with tagged message headers in original .LST file.
5 Automatically tag files, in the added headers, for download.
6 Remove headers for deleted bulletins/messages. (K prefix).
7 Probably, remove headers older than a specified number of days.
8 Be able to use any directory names, on any disc drive. (Use a config file)
9 Make backup files for all files changed by the programme.
10 Not need a separate programme to edit EXECAUTO.TPK.
11 Probably have a help file that you can read with <ALT H> in TPK.
(In addition to a full .DOC file.)
12 Work with any FBB version/TPK version if enough info is forthcoming.
And, of course, it will be a proper executable programme, not some kludge
with a spreadsheet. Hi! It will also be properly tested and bebugged too!
If I don't get enough responses to this bulletin, to make all that worthwhile,
then I'll just write a simple programme for my own use, which I won't be
giving away.
Happy New Year and Happy Cricket.
73s from Ralph VK2ZRG@VK2WI.#SYD.NSW.AUS.OC
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