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From: K0CQ@W0AK.#CIA.IA.USA.NOAM
To  : COAX@WW

Being  a  collector  of  data  books,  I  look  there  first  for 
dielectric type or the velocity of propagation, then to refine my 
quarter  wave  transformer  lines,  I  measure  a  quarter   wave 
resonance. I cheat by owning a grid dip oscillator. I take a line 
long  about  a  quarter  wave long with  an  assume  velocity  of 
propagation (solid dielectric close to 66% and foamed around  82% 
but  more  variable). I leave one end open and connect  a  single 
sire to short the other end. I search with grid dipper coupled to 
that  wire which acts as a small loop for a resonant dip. Then  I 
know the actual RF dielectric constant and can adjust the  length 
if need be.

A similar measurement could be made with a coax connector on  the 
end  of the coax and an antenna impedance bridge looking for  the 
frequency  where the input impedance is lowest, but that  may  be 
out  of  the range of the bridge and complicates the  results  by 
including the connector as part of the line.

Back  to  the reference books. Sometimes one can  measure  center 
conductor  diameter and dielectric outside diameter  and  compare 
those to standard coaxes to get an idea of the DESIGN  dielectric 
constant.  The  trouble with that is that makers willing  to  cut 
corners will cut the center conductor size and let the  impedance 
wander high and won't control the density of a foam well so while 
the conductors may match those in a reputable catalog, the actual 
impedance  and  velocity factor (and loss) may be  far  from  the 
standard coax.

Its  not  beyond  reason  at  UHF or  VHF  to  find  there  is  a 
periodicity  in  the foam leading to  different  velocities  (and 
impedances) in different sections only a foot or two apart.  That 
shouldn't happen in quality coax, but consumer grade coax for  TV 
may not be quality coax.

73, Jerry, K0CQ @ W0AK.#CIA.IA.USA









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