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TCP-Group Digest            Sun,  6 Apr 97       Volume 97 : Issue   31

Today's Topics:
                  Happy birthday tcp-group (5 msgs)

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Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 15:45:27 +0100
From: "Dr. Rich Artym" <rartym@galacta.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Happy birthday tcp-group

In message <199704041551.IAA29252@chunks.gag.com>, Bdale Garbee writes:

> Oh boy... this is going to make me feel old, but here I go, anyway...

Argghhhh!  "Bdale Garbee" was the first magic incantation I discovered
after thinking to myself that this Phil Karn character was a genius ...
Please don't remind me of just how long ago that was! :-)

> And KA9Q's code wasn't always called "NOS".  It was just net.exe... I know a
> lot about the pre-NOS version, since I documented, packaged, and distributed
> the code for Phil.

And many thanks for those distributions, belatedly, to the two of you.  I 
hacked around that NET code to give Swansea Uni ElecEng PCs their first half
decent TCP/IP links to the local computing centre.  That was years and years
before Alan Cox turned up in the Welsh valleys.  For those early days, it
was excellent stuff in its own right, not just for amateur radio.

Ermm, ...

This is appalling, chaps.  Are we all sliding into nostalgia?  Or, is
it allowable once every 10 years? ;-)

Rich.
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Date: Sat, 5 Apr 1997 08:00:15 -0700
From: "Charles Bland" <BlandRanch@WorldNet.ATT.net>
Subject: Happy birthday tcp-group

>Would anyone read it, if I did?

Bdale,

You bet I would.

After the long evenings of hacking net and BM (HA! you thought you could get 
away without those two letters being mentioned again.....) it would be very 
interesting to read something that pulls the bits and pieces together.

The Sacramento, CA TCP/IP network came together during that period of time. I 
got zip files FTPed from Mike Cheponis in the Bay Area to me in Sacto. It was
a 
weak connection, but it made it.

I also learn a TON about TCP/IP from those experiences, which gave me a 
considerable career edge and a jump start on a Master's Degree in Computer 
Science. When my managers and instructors asked where I got my understanding
of 
TCP/IP my answer of Ham Radio caught them by surprise. I also got some hero 
points by tossing together a PC with NOS to provide a makeshift gateway. This 
kept us on schedule with a customer project until the product developers could
get us a software fix. Boss was impressed.

There are bunches and oogles of stories out there. It would be great reading
to 
find them and put them into one document.

So there.  :-)

Chuck Bland
Sacramento, CA


Chuck Bland
*For PGP Key*mailto:BlandRanch@WorldNet.ATT.net?subject=PublicKeyRequest

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Date: Sat, 05 Apr 1997 11:40:34 -0500
From: Ramon Kolb <ramonk@bu.edu>
Subject: Happy birthday tcp-group

Advanced Amateur Radio Networking Group wrote:
> TCP-Group Digest            Sat,  5 Apr 97       Volume 97 : Issue   30

> 
> Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 08:51:41 -0700
> From: Bdale Garbee <bdale@gag.com>
> Subject: Happy birthday tcp-group

> And KA9Q's code wasn't always called "NOS".  It was just net.exe... 


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