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TCP-Group Digest            Mon, 25 Nov 96       Volume 96 : Issue  248

Today's Topics:
                   ??? ethrax25 ??? How ? (3 msgs)
          AEA up for sale; customer service closed (2 msgs)
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                      Their words they're there

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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 19:26:45 +0100
From: Jacques PHILIPPE <on4kjp@ibm.net>
Subject: ??? ethrax25 ??? How ?

Hi all,

I have made many trials to run ETHRAX25 under WIN95. It hangs my system
at WIN95 BOOT.

Can someone tell me the exact procedure to follow. The version and date
of the various softwares used, can be usefull.

I got success with PIPE.COM and JNOS on a single PC, and using a slip
link between two computers, one under JNOS the other under a TRUMPET
WINSOCK.

Now here all WINDOWS TCP/IP applications run on our AX25 net : NETSCAPE,
MSIE, WS_FTP, EUDORA if xNOS popserver is set, a nice CHESS ;-), ..., 90%
of all!).

I put a HTTP server at http://on4kjp.ampr.org  on ax25 net, but I got
no clients :-) , I think ETHRAX25 will help me get some clients without
starting a xNOS highschool.

(on4kjp.ampr.org  44.144.4.7 is know from the www routers)

Thanks to all

Bye de Jacques

on4kjp@ibm.net
on4kjp@on4kjp.ampr.org
on4kjp@on5vl.lg.bel.eu
on4kjp%on5vl@on1kul-10.ampr.org

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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 18:46:52 -0600
From: "Steve Sampson" <ssampson@oklahoma.net>
Subject: ??? ethrax25 ??? How ?

Windows isn't the proper tool for AX.25.  You'd probably do yourself a
huge favor by installing Linux 2.0 or greater.  Then all that CP/M
bullshit goes away, and you can really network (if 1.2 kbps is
really networking).

The other acceptable solution is to build a DOS box, throw in an
ethernet card, and interface to your Windows box through an
ethernet settup (pktdrvr).  This is way overkill for Ham packet.
A 386/40 with 4k of RAM is about 10 times more powerful than
you need.

One thing NOS needs is a port mapper.  That is, when an IP
packet arrives at the radio end and is for a particular port (or
all ports) it has its IP address changed to another.  That new
IP address would be a machine on your network, running some
utility (ftp, web, telnet, etc).  That way you can get rid of all the
obsolete CP/M paradigm stuff in NOS (JNOS, TNOS, UKNOS, etc).

Probably someone needs to start the whole damn thing over in
Java :-)  Seriously, NOS in Java would solve the Windows/Packet
IP problem.  Java doesn't have a serial port library, so you'll have
to write one or wait for someone else.  Seems like Joysticks and
serial ports would be a high priority, but their not.

Linux also is a good OS to run the tnc SLIP code recently uploaded
to UCSD.  As a matter of fact you will play billy-hell getting it to
interface to Win95, as Win95 doesn't have serial port SLIP.  Well
actually it does, but not in the context of non-dialup, i.e., it expects
a modem, not a computer.

Steve
mailto:ssampson@oklahoma.net
http://www.oklahoma.net/~ssampson

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> From: Jacques PHILIPPE <on4kjp@ibm.net>
> To: tcp-group@ucsd.edu
> Subject: ??? ethrax25 ??? How ?
> Date: Sunday, November 24, 1996 12:26 PM
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have made many trials to run ETHRAX25 under WIN95. It hangs my system
> at WIN95 BOOT.
>
> Can someone tell me the exact procedure to follow. The version and date
> of the various softwares used, can be usefull.

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Date: Mon, 25 Nov 96 04:34:00 -0000
From: mikebw@bilow.bilow.uu.ids.net (Mike Bilow)
Subject: ??? ethrax25 ??? How ?

Steve Sampson wrote in a message to Mike Bilow:

 SS> One thing NOS needs is a port mapper.  That is, when an IP
 SS> packet arrives at the radio end and is for a particular port
 SS> (or all ports) it has its IP address changed to another. That
 SS> new IP address would be a machine on your network, running some
 SS> utility (ftp, web, telnet, etc).  That way you can get rid of
 SS> all the obsolete CP/M paradigm stuff in NOS (JNOS, TNOS, UKNOS,
 SS> etc).

"Portmapper" is something entirely different, used for RPC negotiation.  What
you are thinking of is "IP masquerading."

-- Mike

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 14:48:43 -0500
From: Jim De Arras <jmd@cube.WestLab.com>
Subject: AEA up for sale; customer service closed

Steve Sampson wrote:
>
> > Advanced Electronic Applications Inc--better known as AEA--is on the
> market
> > and is no longer handling customer service requests, as callers to the
> > company's Lynnwood, Washington, headquarters discovered this week.
>
> People won't spend $1000 for a modem.  Even if it does contain a DSP chip.
> AEA lost it's market share many years ago, when it distributed its products


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