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> to protected zones. You had to order by the mail to some 6 state protected
> zone store. You couldn't see one in your local store.
>
> With Ham stores failing and going under every week now, there is no place
> to wholesale to.
>
> Once we get down to two super distributers, I guess the prices will go back
> up,
> and then Ham radio will be a mail-order thing. Right now it's no fun to
> work
> all day for $2 markup on a radio, and have all the real money go to Japan
> :-)
>
> Steve
What makes you think the spiral will end? Without new blood, Ham radio
will end before the end of the first decade of the next century. You
can bank on it. As Hams age, more and more are content with what they
have. No more "fire" = no new sales. Why buy a 1996 model 2mtr radio,
when the one you (and I) got a decade ago still performs to the aging
state of the art?
You yourself said it. No one will pay $1k for a modem, and your
prediction of "super distributers" includes rising, not lowering,
prices.
The commercial makers of Ham radios will carry Ham radio on the backs
thier "real" commercial rigs only as long as the costs are justified.
That is ending.
Jim
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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 19:28:20 -0600
From: "Charles Brabham" <n5pvl@texoma.net>
Subject: AEA up for sale; customer service closed
According to Jim De Arras...
>
> What makes you think the spiral will end? Without new blood, Ham radio
> will end before the end of the first decade of the next century. You
> can bank on it. As Hams age, more and more are content with what they
> have. No more "fire" = no new sales. Why buy a 1996 model 2mtr radio,
> when the one you (and I) got a decade ago still performs to the aging
> state of the art?
>
> You yourself said it. No one will pay $1k for a modem, and your
> prediction of "super distributers" includes rising, not lowering,
> prices.
>
> The commercial makers of Ham radios will carry Ham radio on the backs
> thier "real" commercial rigs only as long as the costs are justified.
> That is ending.
>
> Jim
That's encouraging news, Jim!
Reduced availability of plug 'n play "appliances" will encourage the
educational side of ham radio, as hams once again turn to piecing together
their own equipment from whatever is available. Conversion of commercial
and military equipment will be more common, and this in turn will elevate
the quality of hams, which will make up somewhat for the reduced quantity
of them.
Just joking, but then again it does point out that there's a bright side to
every scenario. Personally I have serious reservations as to your gloomy
predictions coming about, but if they do I think you will be amazed at how
well hams will handle the situation.
For my part, I don't believe that the sale of AEA has to be a bad thing at
all. A change of ownership and management may be "Just what the doctor
ordered" for AEA, and the company could easily come back better than ever.
Also, I seriously doubt that AEA's troubles reflect the status of other
companies.
It's a bit too early to tell, so I'm not going to either panic or celebrate
just yet.
73 DE Charles Brabham, N5PVL
Packet Radio : N5PVL @ N5PVL.#NTX.TX.USA.NOAM
WWW: http://www.texoma.com/~n5pvl
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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 22:19:32 +1100 (EST)
From: Graham Broadbridge <grahamb@peachy.apana.org.au>
Subject: That Mag Advertisement
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On Sat, 23 Nov 1996, Tom Saluti (N1KIO) wrote:
> Hey guys, some of the people who recieve this get it over Ham radio.
> I thought stuff like that junk was filtered out .
Brian has stated time and time again that this is an internet mailing list
and is quite probably not suitable for broadcast unfiltered.
It's up to the gateway to filter the content if necessary.
Graham.
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Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 22:08:54 -0600
From: Steve Sampson <ssampson@oklahoma.net>
Subject: Their words they're there
> Seems like Joysticks and serial ports would be a high priority,
> but *their* not.
Darn, I thought after years of training I wouldn't be making this
mistake again :-)
Steve
"So They're"
"So Their"
"So There!"
....
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